gwyn: (fraser xanphibian)
gwyn ([personal profile] gwyn) wrote2007-07-20 12:32 pm
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Make it go away!

I think if I hear one more word about freaking Harry Potter and have to listen to more hysteria about spoilers, I may explode. It's bad enough that my flist is filled with posts from normally sane and rational people vowing to defriend and send ninja assassins against anyone who even so much as gives an emoticon as a reaction and kill all their family, but the excessiveness is now bleeding into other fandoms. And it is just a constant at work -- I swear, 75 percent of the copy in the past few days has been about Harry freaking Potter.

Before, I just didn't care about it. Now, I'm actively loathing it because I cannot escape it -- it's at work, at play, when I go out, when I turn on the TV. I need distraction (especially since we have two more HP stories filing today). I'm stealing a page from [livejournal.com profile] cereta and asking you to tell me about a pairing you like, anything but a pairing from HP for the love of god, het, gen, or slash, whatever you like -- friendships, romance, love/hate... and tell me why you like it.

I will start off with Fraser and Ray Vecchio because that is on my mind quite a bit these past few days. I love them because they look past each others' flaws and see the person inside that a lot of people miss. When most people look at Benny, they see this gorgeous, studly, upstanding Mountie who's the epitome of smart and capable and polite. But Ray's seen the darker side of Fraser, the one that would fall for someone like Victoria, the one who'd throw a knife to shut someone up... the one who can resolutely face down danger and take on being ostracized from his own profession in order to do what he knows is right. Ray knows there's a much tougher and more damaged guy in there, and he accepts it without blinking. He knows that his Benny has much more inside him, and he acknowledges it without ever acknowledging it.

And Fraser for his part knows that Ray is a good cop, a strong cop, and not just this kind of silly goombah others think he is. He trusts Ray completely, no matter how much Ray complains, and knows that if push comes to shove, Ray will choose to do the right thing. Even when Ray is doing something relatively dishonest, Fraser has faith that the good will win out. Ray is his only true friend, and he understands the value of the trust and faith Ray put in him, right from the start. Yay, Fraser and Ray V.

You speak now.
minim_calibre: (Two Axes Xanphibian)

[personal profile] minim_calibre 2007-07-20 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that was lovely!

I love them so. I couldn't say it better.

I love that Benny sees the beauty and grace in Ray as much as I love that Ray sees the man within the Mountie. They just compliment each other so well.

I'd talk about other pairings or friendships, but now my brain is sitting here going, "Other? What other?"
ext_2366: (duesouth: otp)

[identity profile] sdwolfpup.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Between your comment and gwyn's post, I'm at the same stage. "What other?" indeed!

Lalalala - I Am Not Looking

[identity profile] morgandawn.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
before I forget - at a local tea party, the hostess pulled out the Escapade DVD to show her favorite vid - it was your Big Eden vid. Much appreciation was expressed.

Re: Lalalala - I Am Not Looking

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
NOT LOOKING AT WHAT??? For the love of god.

Re: Lalalala - I Am Not Looking

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
And, um, thanks for letting me know about the vid.

Seriously. I know nothing about HP and I DON'T CARE.
ext_8787: (miracles h/c)

[identity profile] deejay.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's always 'Miracles' (umm, duh?), I reckon. Why? Umm ... uhh ... well, it's 'cuz they're both so darned ooh-baby-ooh-baby-ooh-baby-ooh. =P

[identity profile] brynnmck.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with SDW and minim_calibre--after this, I'm not sure I can talk about anyone else! YAY, FRASER AND RAY V. The perfect imperfect partnership.

HP who?

[identity profile] dine.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I stopped reading the HP series around Book 4, and have only watched the first 2 movies - obviously, I'm not too involved in the drama that's occuring around tonight's release.

as a multi-fandom slasher, I'm fond of far too many pairings. but for some reason the one that sprang to mind as I read this was Buck/Ezra from M7. I know it's not one of the popular pairings, but in my head, they just work so well together - and this probably isn't a very good explanation of why the pairing works for me, as I left my thinky thoughts at home in bed this morning.

I see Buck as a nurturer deep down; he needs to be needed and take care of someone (see JD), though he has no problem being a badass. we mostly see his surface, though there are hints that he's not as shallow as he seems.

Ezra's torn between his upbringing, and discovering there are other ways in which to engage with people. this creates some lovely tension between him and the group, and the overall distrust by just about everyone makes him vulnerable (and sometimes woobieish) and therefore a target for Buck's caring. Ezra's snark (mostly) rolls off Buck's back, as he's not too easily offended, and while their backgrounds/experiences are vastly different, something in their personalities mesh (in my view).

I just like the two of them together - and read (and reread) stories featuring them (including the not-exactly-stellar stuff). I wish there were more writers who'd tackle the pairing - because it's got to be all about me, right? *g*

Re: HP who?

[identity profile] rattlecatcher.livejournal.com 2007-07-21 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Heh heh heh...

Sorry, just having a sudden urge to send you Buck/Ezra... It's um... mostly unwritten at this time but there's bits. And pieces.

And Gwyn? I like HP but have only read the 1st 3 or 4 books, but I'm amazed at the reach. On a business library listserv I sub to for work, a question about the total copies sold came up. Let me repeat: A BUSINESS LIBRARY LISTSERV had questions about HP.

Potter fandom, get a room! I'll go halvsies on the cost but for the love of Bob get a room!

/soap

Re: HP who?

[identity profile] dine.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
hey, feel free to send me Buck/Ezra at any time! and if you need a cheerleader to encourage you to keep working on the project, I'm hereby volunteering!

Re: HP who?

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly, I had never even thought Buck/Ezra as a pairing until I wrote a story for Killa. My brain went, huh? but once I started to think about it, it wasn't hard to make it work for me mentally. I've always been an OTP kinda gal, and for me that's C/V, but taking a look at those two through someone else's eyes was very illuminating!

[identity profile] kassrachel.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Veronica and Weevil. I was just thinking about them in the car yesterday -- about the story I want to someday write (if I can think of a plot to go with it), wherein Veronica leaves the FBI after a few years and comes back to California and she and Weevil start a detective agency in Los Angeles...

I love Weevil because he's smarter than he lets on, and he's loyal to a fault, and he's butch and macho but there's a sweetness to him underneath (and okay, those eyelashes don't hurt either. *g*) I love how much he cares about Veronica -- how much she matters to him.

And I love Veronica because she's tough and smart and she likes to act like she doesn't need anyone even though she totally does. And she's crazy and resourceful. And she's also kind of broken -- she has trust issues out the wazoo -- but when somebody becomes family to her, when she lets herself depend on someone, really amazing transformational things can happen.

I love them together, so much. :-)

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmmmm... all this makes me really really happy. Except the part where you haven't written a story for them yet! If you do, I will most certainly be there for it.

[identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com 2007-07-20 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Sharpe and Teresa (in the movies) – I love them because Teresa is such a strong person and not just another damsel in distress for Sharpe to rescue. And she’s kind of prickly and hard to get to know and she’s not sure about whether she wants to be alone or whether she wants to be with this man to whom she’s incredibly attracted. I love that she teaches Sharpe a lot about being a leader – often only by her own example. And I love that Sharpe finds someone who doesn’t judge him by his accent and his torn coat but by his character and that he lets himself stop being prickly and defensive around her. Also, they’re amazingly hot together :P

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, yes, yes! I really do believe they are one of the greatest love stories of all time.
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[identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com 2007-07-21 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to organize a dS marathon with sdwolfpup and anyone else, as soon as sdwolfpup's in-laws are gone. You should be there, because YES. RAY VECCHIO.

I posted a new 13th Warrior fic today, my first in over six months, the thing that gave me such fucking labor pains I nearly gave up. But this was the serendipity thing I was talking about: how accidents kept turning out to be perfect, and random choices were eerily wonderful. Long, long ago I wanted to do something with the image of Buliwyf as Odin, with the ravens on each shoulder, so I went looking for information about the ravens. It turns out their names are so utterly flawless for the fic that I keep choking up just thinking about it. How's that for serendipity?

I also think it's one of my best stories; the last time I felt this good about a fic, it got the best reviews of anything I had ever done (my Letty/Leon one). (Also a lone het fic in a sea of slash!)

[identity profile] devilpiglet.livejournal.com 2007-07-21 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Jack/Chloe (my current)
Spike/Buffy
Spike/Dawn (INORITE? but not skeevy or weird)
Spike/Nikki (wow, there's a theme here)
Veronica/Logan
Mac/Weevil
Veronica/Wallace (although I've never actually read any - does it exist?)
Riddick/Jack
Mulder/Scully
Helo/Either Sharon
Wolverine/Rogue
Sydney/Sark
Ripley/Hicks
Dwight/Miho

...Whew. For half of these I think I'm gonna have to write my own.

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The dangers of many pairings -- you end up having to write your own stuff if you dare to veer off the beaten path.

I think Jack and Chloe should just kiss and get it over with. It would do them both a world of good.

(Anonymous) 2007-07-21 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
re: HP, ditto except that I still do not care a fig in spite of the current hysteria. I cannot even say I am not an HP fan which that could imply that I dislike the HP phenomenon when I have absolutely no basis to do so, considering that I have never read or watched any HP stuff, nor do I plan on doing so at any time in the future.

At first it was because I thought it was totally derivative -for instance of Neil Gaiman's 'Books of Magic' which I highly recommend by the way- then I simply lost any intellectual curiosity I might have had about it in the beginning. I am not much of a follower, I guess.

But hate? Not really. I still do not care and the current spoiler-phobia only strikes me as weird, bordering on unhinged in a few rare cases.

:)

*empathy-less person here*

PS: My favorite pairing for the past couple of years? SGA's own Sheppard/McKay. They are just so stupid and so cute together on screen, just like little boys, really. And so socially inept that they totally deserve each other.

As Merry put it best: "SGA is more like... your slacker ex-boyfriend (the one you ditched because he was smart and cute but had no direction and no skills, and seemed like he was going to watch the sci-fi channel professionally for the rest of his life). The one who ended up in the military, and ever after you thought, "Whoa. John is in the military? My John? Seriously?" whenever you troubled to think of him. And then there's that geeky guy from the debate club who was sort of cute in a dorky way but who could never stop debating and just have a regular conversation so whenever you saw him in the caf you'd go sit with the pep squad so he wouldn't try to talk to you. He knew everything and thought you were sort of stupid but you were smarter than the rest of the girls and oh, by the way, a girl, so he had to try to impress you, which only made him even more annoying. When you think of him at all you probably have a vague impression of acne plus obnoxious plus wondering who told him it was okay to dress like that.

I watch SGA with a sense of horrified recognition and a vague sort of nihilistic glee, because OMG my slacker ex-boyfriend and that dork from the debate club are supposed to save the world?? We are SO DOOMED!!! I watch with the mortal certainty that somehow they are going to fuck it all up. They didn't even get into it to save the world - John was hiding out from the entire planet in Antarctica and flipped a coin to decide to go, and often gives the impression that he wished he'd made it best two out of three. Rodney probably dared himself into it and exists in a state of mild perpetual panic at the magnitude of what they're doing and what they expect of him. John had absolutely no desire to be in charge of anything, and Rodney's still upset that he had to leave his cat with a neighbor. These are guys we know. These are the guys our friends would set us up with for coffee and then after we'd go back to our friends and say, Oh, thanks BUNCHES, and by the way I'm never letting you near my social life again."
from http://merryish.livejournal.com/137394.html

[identity profile] kadymae.livejournal.com 2007-07-21 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I already wrote my little ode to Tim/Landry in Cereta's LJ, so ...

Black Adam/Atom Smasher.

4000 Year old "first draft" at a Captain Marvel and the nice 7 foot jewish boy next door.

Black Adam is the elect of the Egyptian Pantheon. He is, in his own way, an honorable man, the problem is, he's got a 4000 year old world view in which an eye for an eye is perfectly fine. (I mean, his wife's death wish to him was that he get revenge against her murderers, so when he found that a government of a nation had funded them -- he killed everybody in that nation.) But he's fiercely loyal to those he loves, like Atom Smasher.

A highlight reel of their very slashy relationship is here (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/1079023.html). And yes, folks, that's the power of Shazam being used as a defibrilator.

Recently in 52, when Black Adam was finally depowered to end his rampage, and the JLA/JSA every other damn'd law enforcement agent on the planet was looking to get their pound of flesh, it was Atom Smasher who took Black Adam and hid him.

It's the bitter old God and the idealistic Kid Next Door.

It's two men who would do almost anything for each other.

And, they pretty much have nothing left, but each other.

I know it's going to end badly.

But I love their desperation, and their passion for what they believe in, and their willingness to be damned if it means somebody else will have a better life

Their candles burn at both ends.

[identity profile] ciardhapagan.livejournal.com 2007-07-21 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Naruto and Sakura from the Naruto manga, part 2 of the manga which starts off after Sakura has already turned 16 and Naruto is a few months away from turning 16. While they are cute in part 1 of the manga, they mature over the "timeskip" (2 1/2 years) and Sakura finds she has developed romantic feelings for Naruto (he's loved her since the start of the series)

Also from Naruto- Shikamaru and Temari, they snark at each other in such a fun way. They battled each other in the Chunin exams in part 1 and sparks started to fly because they both are highly intelligent tatical planners, quite evenly matched. Then she comes to his rescue :) near the end of part 1, and when we see them in part 2, he's escorting her around the village. They teasingly deny they are dating to Naruto and Sakura, but it's pretty obvious they really enjoy each other's company. (and heh she's an "older" woman, in part 2 Temari is going on 19 and Shikamaru is going on 16)

And thirdly, also from Naruto Jiraiya and Tsunade, they were on a team together growing up, until Tsunade left the village after her fiance Dan died from horrible wounds sustained in battle. They are both are now in their early 50's. He brings her back to the village to become the new leader of the village. It's clear they've always had kind of an attraction for each other but Jiraiya was too much a pervert for Tsunade to tolerate. But disgust has faded to a vague annoyance after all the years she's known him. He even got her to blush from an amusing double entendre (about how she beat him within an inch of his life when he peeped on her naked when they were young adults) He says "she had her way with me" and listed his injuries in such a way it sounded like they had very rough sex. Heh. Her reaction to his words is clearly a mix of embarassment and arousal.

[identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I have heard a lot of my friends talk about this one -- now I have some context!!