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[personal profile] gwyn
Today's question from [personal profile] sholio : If you had been in fandom when you were a kid, what shows would you have been fanning on, and what kinds of things would you have looked up for them?

I used to actually write stories, sometimes on paper, sometimes just in my head, for my favorite shows and movies when I was little. The first thing like this I know of I wrote when I was five--a little Hound of the Baskervilles remix, I suppose you could call it, of the Mickey Mouse and Goofy version. We found it when we were going through my mom's things after she died, and I laughed my ass off because…wow, even though I didn't know about this kind of fandom till I was in my twenties, apparently I was a little fanfic writing fangirl as a child.

I also still have the record albums my sister and I wrote all over with ballpoint pen--the first two Monkees albums; we put hearts and stars and shit all around the names of the guys we liked best (she was a Davey Jones girl, I went for Mike and Mickey). I was fucking obsessed with that series, and their music, I really was. I still love it, unironically, unashamedly. If we'd had internet then, I would absolutely have been following them on social media, and buying all the weird merch, and going to shows, and whatever else was out there. As it was all we had was Tiger Beat and 16 magazines, so I had to get my fixes there.

I also would have been writing fanfic and vidding, I'm sure, for this incredibly obscure western called Laredo. No one knows about it, but for some reason my sister and I were obsessed with it, which was difficult because my mother pretty much banned westerns from our television--my sister and I wanted to watch Bonanza and the Rifleman and stuff like that, but my mom had this deepseated antipathy toward any show where anyone used the words "ma" or "pa" and so it was rare for us to be able to watch those things. There was very little written about it, and I think we found it after it had gone off the air and was being shown in reruns on a Saturday afternoon or something--that was the one time Mom wasn't dictating what we could watch, so I think that was how we found it.

It was a strange show, in that it was tonally different from anything else you'd find on TV then--not quite a dramedy, but definitely a comedic hour-long series. The two main characters were complete hotasses, and even my young self was wide-eyed at William Smith's pecs and biceps and traps, and he wore pants that rivaled Jim West's in tightness, BUCKSKIN pants that were deliciously tight, and he had that Chris Evans Dorito shoulder to waist ration. So much of the series makes me cringe now, the racism and the sexism and all of that '60s era shit, but man, little me loved it, and I'd have been all over fan sites if I could have.

There were a lot of things I was actively fannish about without even knowing that a thing like fandom existed--my walls were littered with the pullout posters from Tiger Beat (sigh, David Cassidy), I'd write in for giant posters of actors like Paul Newman, and I collected clippings in scrapbooks and stuff. I was a budding film buff as young as ten, so I was starting to research movies and collect things about them, and the movie stars, and the musicians I liked. I think that's why I know I'm never going to be able to fully disinvest from fandom--I've been this way my whole damn life, without even knowing that such a life existed.


ETA: Did anyone else get a kudos email today from AO3? Man, I finally have some kudos and I still don't get an email even when I have some! I'm used to going days and days without any kudos, but it would have been a nice thing today except that there's been no sign of one, it's almost midnight, and I can't find anything about it on the twitter feed so I assume everything's fine.


Date: 2016-12-24 07:13 am (UTC)
raine: (Default)
From: [personal profile] raine
I usually get them around 3:50 AM when I get kudos. They used to come earlier but for some reason it's been later for the last several months, I want to say.

Date: 2016-12-24 08:03 am (UTC)
escritoireazul: (Default)
From: [personal profile] escritoireazul
AO3 is throwing errors left and right in the run up to Yuketide, and I would not be surprised if it messed with emails too.
Edited Date: 2016-12-24 08:04 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-12-24 09:59 am (UTC)
ratcreature: X-Mas: RatCreature as Santa. (xmas)
From: [personal profile] ratcreature
The last kudo mail I got was on the 20th, but I don't get them every day ayway. However notifications for WIP updates also take longer than usual atm.

Date: 2016-12-24 10:29 am (UTC)
sholio: sun on winter trees (Default)
From: [personal profile] sholio
Thank you so much for the interesting answer; I really enjoyed reading this! :D It is pretty cool to look back and realize you were doing fandom-type things before you even knew that fandom was a thing, because I used to do that, too. (There was a thread going around on Tumblr awhile back in which people talked about keeping binders of celebrity pictures/clippings back before the internet was a thing, and I literally had no idea that I wasn't the only person who did that ... kinda wish I'd kept some of those!)

Date: 2016-12-24 01:24 pm (UTC)
kass: "let love be your engine," image of Kaylee and of Serenity (let love be your engine)
From: [personal profile] kass
I love the fact that you were a fic-writing fangirl as a kid before you knew about fandom! ♥

Date: 2016-12-24 03:07 pm (UTC)
aerye: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aerye
My longing to somehow find the door into H.R Pufnstuf—land was actually painful at times. ::g::

Date: 2016-12-24 05:44 pm (UTC)
ixchel55: (anim-Kate Hepburn)
From: [personal profile] ixchel55
In some ways we are definitely sisters from another mister! I adored the Monkeys - both the music and the TV show. I will admit - unashamedly - to being a Davey Jones fan but I loved them all. I played the song 'Valerie' so much my mom threatened to trash the 45. You know who I also loved? Paul Revere and the Raiders. They didn't have their own show but they kept popping up on afternoon teen shows and I actually got to meet them. When I was still a 'tween my dad worked at a place called Jenkins Music Company that had a whole 7 story building in downtown Kansas City that included a small auditorium. The group was performing somewhere in town later that night but for some technical reason couldn't get into the venue to practice so they were given Jenkins' little auditorium to warm up since it was only a few blocks from their venue. My dad found out about it and took his lunch hour to come and get me out of school so that I could meet them and watch their rehearsal. I was totally in 7th Heaven and the envy of all of my friends for weeks. About that time there was a short-lived series called The Young Rebels about young, attractive people fighting as guerrillas in the Revolutionary War that I obsessed about. I even found some of the old series and downloaded it but haven't watched it yet.

Also, I adored westerns when I was a kid and I loved Laredo! Even though William Smith (yes, he of the pecs and biceps of death) generally played bad guys throughout his career (including the dastardly son of a snake-eyed varmint that raped Miss Kitty), I always loved him because of Joe Riley. And while I liked Peter Brown's Chad Cooper, I really loved Neville Brand's Reese Bennett. Do you know they regularly play Laredo re-runs on Encore Westerns? I've caught a few episodes. My other favorite westerns were The High Chaparral and Lancer.

Probably the show that I was most fannish about when I was a kid though was Star Trek. It was the first time I ever wrote fanfic although of course I didn't know it was fanfic. And the object of my fantasies was Chekov. What can I say, I was just a little kid.

I also lived for magazines like Tiger Beat and 16. I spent a lot of my allowance on the magazines and sending off for the larger posters they advertised.

Date: 2016-12-24 05:56 pm (UTC)
ranalore: (cave fen)
From: [personal profile] ranalore
Wow, do I identify with so much of this. My indoors leisure time was about sixty five percent reading and writing, thirty five percent TV and music, and when Mom kicked us out of the house to go play outside, my sisters and I almost always ended up acting out original scenarios I'd come up with based on our favorite shows--which were heavily genre, because we had geek parents and were all Trekkers in the womb. My first memory of going to see a live-action movie in a theater is Star Wars, and it was a special treat on Saturday nights to be allowed to stay up and have popcorn while we watched Buck Rogers and Battlestar Galactica back to back.

Thanks to my mom, we also had exposure to Wild, Wild West, Here Come the Brides, and the Monkees. As the oldest, I was allowed to "pick" which guy I liked first, and then my sisters had to fangirl from the choices left (I know, but it was the only way to prevent middle sister from throwing tantrums about sharing). Mom's favorite was Davey, and I felt like she wanted me to pick him, but not only did I know my baby sister in fact actually did like him, Mickey was more to my tastes. Fortunately for everyone involved, middle sister was all set to raise hell if she didn't get Peter, so it all worked out. And I remember my mom talking about Laredo and trying to find it in TV Guide so we could watch it, because she liked the stuff with humor, but she never could find it on a channel we got. Which is just as well, since the only vaguely Western thing she showed us that we liked was Here Come the Brides. It wasn't until I was in my teens and getting into the literary pre-cursors of Weird West, steampunk, and gaslamp fantasy that I began to appreciate Wild, Wild West, even as I cringed at the racism and sexism. Jim and Artemis were very pretty, though.

Kudo emails have been very spotty for me lately, but that's always true around Yuletide, and yet Yuletide is when I do get several when they come through, because I've written some of the only stories in several Yuletide-eligible and otherwise obscure fandoms. I suspect it doesn't show on the twitter feed because it's one of those cases where nobody reports it because they all assume it's just Yuletide and don't bother?

Date: 2016-12-24 08:04 pm (UTC)
sperrywink: (Avengers Steve Bucky Back Shield)
From: [personal profile] sperrywink
I usually get a kudos email every day, and didn't get one today, so I think it is AO3, particularly since I definitely kudos'd your story, and left you a comment on AO3, so you should have gotten at least mine! :-)

For me, I was totally monofannish growing up, which is so surprising considering how I do actual fandom. But the only thing I was fannish about, and it lasted from when I was 6 until I was 18 and went to college and didn't have a TV, was MASH. It fit my Dad's politics so he let me watch it after school in first grade, and I feel in love with the whole show right away. Good times, good times. :-)

Date: 2016-12-24 11:44 pm (UTC)
topaz119: (it was a dark and stormy night)
From: [personal profile] topaz119
I didn't get a kudo email yesterday (12/23) (and I know I had some)so it wasn't just you. As far as I can tell, they got rolled into today's notification

Date: 2016-12-25 03:07 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
OMG dude do you remember this? The Monkees "Christmas Medley '86"

Date: 2016-12-24 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The last one I got was on 14 December. But I don't get one every day or even every week. How wonderful that you still have your old story! I love the Monkees too! I would have been looking up "The Virginian", which I watched every week. I think "Star Trek" was my first full blown obsession, though.

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