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I should explain about my Final Cut Express whinage. See, it's not that it's just a really hard and complex program that people sniff at me about panicking that I can't learn. It's that... you know how in the '50s and '60s, they always envisioned this future with jet cars and transporters and people wearing radio collars and stuff like that? The Jetsons? This is like waking up in that world with no transition in between -- kinda like the guy in Futurama.

What a lot of people who are kindly trying to pat my hand and tell me it's easy don't get is that I started out with bearskins and stone knives. And unlike many of my caveperson cohorts, I was still using the skins and knives until just a year and a half ago. (Insert pause for all the online computer vidders to make sneering noises about us old skoolers. Okay, and we're back.) And I had used the skins and knives for more than six years, and it was how I learned to edit and process vid story and information and pacing and all of that. I knew about tape rollback and zero counters for insert edits and how you rewired to make the machines talk to each other and still give you picture on your TV screen and how to get decent waste video instead of something on PAX TV like Highway to Heaven. But then two Christmases ago, I got a hi-def TV and I was making my last VCR vid, My Beautiful Reward, and when I saw how things looked on the hi-def and how hard it was to see my source, I knew I wasn't going to be able to use the stone knives anymore and the bearskins were moldy. Shoot forward six months, when I finally was able to buy the iMac and make vids on the computer.

Now, take someone who has been sitting in their cave, pounding on flints to make fire (cuz we had fire, at least, back in those days), walking around with mastodon slippers, and sit them in front of a... well, let's say a buggy. A carriage. Suddenly you have this new technology -- wheels! harnesses that you can put four-legged beasts to and make it go fast! -- and you have to learn how to hook the horse up and make the buggy go and all that. But you poke around because your buggy (iMovie) is made pretty simply. It's not really made for what you want to do with it, it's more for mom and dad who've never driven [edited] anything before and don't really know the ins and outs of buggy-riding [creating this kind of video], but you keep at it and eventually, with some frustration and poking around and an okay user manual (cuz you can read, too), you master your little horse and carriage. You have graduated from bearskins and knives and no longer need parrots to record your TV shows and potatoes to print your zines, and you are speeding along at a zippy pace in your buggy as long as the wheels don't fall off (because you are still a Neanderthal and don't know how to change the wheels) or the horse throws a shoe.

Of course, your friends who weren't around in the cave days have only ever ridden in buggies and they never had mastodon slippers. Some of your friends who were in the cave days are really smart and they figured out all the stuff with the buggies really easy and took to it like a teradactyl to water. Or something. But you're not one of them; you're a true cave person born and bred and you are also on your own because everyone else you know uses a different kind of buggy and horses. But those friends who've known only buggies, they have created something even better -- the horseless carriage. They are zipping along at speeds of two, four, even six horses; they pass you by on the way and wave smugly at you! You like your buggy, even though you don't understand it, because you are cavewoman, but when you see those horseless carriages, well, wow. You really want one. You want to wave smugly and drive fast, too!

But you know it's beyond you -- you can barely even figure out how to harness the horse let alone how to turn an ignition switch or flip that flipper arm or put the carriage in reverse. Most of that stuff on the horseless carriage you don't even know the name of, because just a year ago you were still pounding flints in your cave to make fire. You've never really had the chance to see any of this stuff till you got the buggy, and then suddenly there were horseless carriages everywhere. You are completely lost in the world of the Jetsons and there is no Jane to stop that crazy thing. You're all freaked out because there is no place for the cave person to go, and everyone expects you to understand the internal combustion engine and how to run a horseless carriage. "Oh, it's simple," the people who grew up with only buggies around say. And you want to take your stone knife and pound it on the new carriage because you kind of at least understand pounding. So whenever the horseless carriage crowd tells you how easy it is, you grunt and make cave noises because up till a year ago, you only knew how to grunt and pound on things and you're still having trouble with the whole buggy concept.

This is how it is for me. I was in a cave till a year and a half ago, and I'm still not fully into buggy mode, let alone horseless carriage mode. Zipping down the highway and waving to anyone is not yet on my calendar. I haven't fully integrated the whole buggy concept yet, but I'm in Jetsons land and I don't understand a word of it. There's no automatic language translator, either! I have been gypped! So while it's easy for people who grew up with buggies and horseless carriages, it's not quite there for Cave Woman. I'm still working out where to put my stone knife so it's handy in case I need to pound.

Date: 2004-12-15 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbo.livejournal.com
I just have to tell you how much I loved reading this extended metaphor!

*hugs* for the horseless carriage stuff.

Date: 2004-12-15 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Next, I will get a jet car!

Date: 2004-12-15 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minotaurs.livejournal.com
Ook! Ook-Ook! At least you know how to pound things... Very funny little rant.

Date: 2004-12-15 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Ook-ook! I love it! Yes, I am a skilled pounder... at the very least, I still have my buggy, and even though it's not as zippy, I can continue to use it while the horseless carriage gathers mold in the driveway.

Date: 2004-12-15 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
It took me 12 years to learn how to drive.

I got my permit at 16. My mother always took car time as the time when I couldn't jsut leave the room or turn up the television if I didn't like what she was saying. This does nt work when you are scared you might kill someone. There were quite a few moments wehn I was overcome with frustration and got out of the car in the middle of a busy intersection and just walked home.

At one point, I accidently put the car into reverse and drove through the next door neighbor's garage, very nearly scuffing his '63 Mustang. I couldn't go a week without hearing about that for at least 5 years.

As a result, I put off getting my license until I was 28 years old.

If I had a chance to go back and relive those intervening 12 years with a driver's license, my life would have been totally different.

Learning new things is never easy. I've been reading your posts regarding this and reading the responses to them. I don't think I've seen one person say it would be easy. They are just saying that it is worth learning and worth figuring out and worth working through the frustration and that they like your vids well enough that they are willing to help you figure it out.

Date: 2004-12-15 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
One of these days I really am going to get that blinking red nose light [livejournal.com profile] sherrold says I need for my dry sarcasm. I think you may have misunderstood my meaning here (which is basically: in less than two years I have gone through some really dramatic switches in technology, which I'm not really fully equipped for)and taken it too seriously.

And yes, I have had many people tell me that it's easy. You may not have seen them here, but they are around, believe me. I've had to endure the lectures.

Date: 2004-12-15 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
Oh no, I got the sarcasm and thought it was terribly funny. : )

I just wanted to pull out the metaphor a little bit. I picked up the basics of Adobe Premiere relatively quickly but, learning to drive? That was a trauma.

I must have missed all of the crazy people saying that figuring out software is easy. I only just friended you a few months ago.

The thing that I've found interesting about your posts on figuring out the tech was that all of these people who have created the most amazing feats of techy effecty brilliance are actually asking ME of all people how to explain obscure features of the software to them.

Nobody knows this stuff cold.

Date: 2004-12-15 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Maybe we could do that thing like on Star Trek where Kirk got body/brain swapped with that chick Janet or whatever. And I could give you my driving brain and you could give me the vid program understanding brain. (Brain and brain? What is this brain?!) Because I was totally born to be behind the wheel of a car, and driving is second nature to me and I love it. But this... this is not. I wasted hours tonight just trying to do a few things and poke around and all it did was reduce me to tears of frustration as it booped at me repeatedly like some kind of core meltdown warning. iMovie never booped at me like I was going to create a hull breach on the Enterprise.

Date: 2004-12-16 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
Yes. Final Cut does do some rather condescending booping. I resolved this issue by changing the error sound on my system to something that didn't tick me off. Now when I hit the wrong button I get a pleasant reminder that I have done something improper instead of the "You moron!" sound.


I have since figured out driving and have been accident free for 7 years. Two of my brothers and my mom have had their licenses revoked. The privilege of carting them around everywhere they have to go gives me ample opportunity to gloat. Luckily for them, I am too decent and moral to take advantage of those opportunities.

Very often.

Date: 2004-12-16 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
It's actually much worse -- it's a sound file that is attached to the vid clip. I imported everything (130) clips into iMovie a few weeks ago and if I drag a clip into the timeline, playing it produces a boop boop boop all the way through. I can't detach the audio from the video.

I spent four hours wasting time trying to get a feel for the program last night and this was the most discouraging depressing thing I've ever encountered. I can't even imagine how much extra crap that will add to the file size. It's just... awful and I don't know how to fix it or why it's doing it. It says it can import clips from iMovie, but obviously something's wrong with how it handles audioless video files.

Date: 2004-12-16 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
You know, I think I've had that one happen to me. I don't remember off hand how I fixed that. I'll see if I can get my system to do that again to figure out the solution.

Date: 2005-01-30 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
Troubleshooting solutions for beepage within.

http://www.mnfcpug.org/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=236

I saw this and thought of you.

Date: 2004-12-15 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justacat.livejournal.com
You may not understand the internal combustion engine, or how your horses are shod, but you sure can write - had me snickering madly at my desk.

Date: 2004-12-15 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadymae.livejournal.com
Gwyn.

I have 10 days of break time coming up at the end of this month. My goal was to teach myself the basics of how to run around in iMovie and FCE.

{{{{{{You are scaring me.}}}}}}}

In the meantime, oh cavewoman, you know you're getting emailed if I can't figure out how to run the DVD player through the switch box (that just happens to break macro) and into the video capture/TV Tuner widget, right?

Finally, if it will help you, email me (kadymae at operamail.com) and I'll lend you my copy of Final Cut Express for Dummies and you can just give it back to me at Escapade. You can even annotate it if you wish.










Date: 2004-12-15 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadymae.livejournal.com
Oh, and I just want to say that your post was the needed kick in the ass for me to finally set up my home office DVD, TV and VCR the way I've wanted to. I'm watching a DVD at last on my TV -- and not my computer

Tomorrow I'm going to see if I can s-video the DVD into the computer. If there's a macro issue I'll see if I can run it in through the TV in line.

I'd do it tonight, but I'm going to be "taping" Lost to my hard drive tonight.

Date: 2004-12-15 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I'm scaring MYSELF. Tonight I decided to waste hours trying to understand at least the windows and such but it's hard wihtout clips so I put clips in and then terrible things happened as I mentioned above in my post to Jackiejono. I hate it.

Imovie though I can definitely walk you through. I'm not like an expert, but I have at least learned to make vids in it. And indeed I do know about the passthrough device.

Date: 2004-12-15 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadymae.livejournal.com
Actually, I tried doing that tonight.

Ran my s-video cable from DVD straight into capture widget. Put in DVD I *know* is macro'd.

IT CAPTURED!

Woot! Didn't even need the pass-through.

(Will now go out and stock up on el-cheapo DVD players that are too cheap to have macro chip in them.)

Date: 2004-12-15 04:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
God, you're funny! Talk about the perfect metaphor!

Still, I empathize, I really do. Learning editing software is daunting. The only reason I was able to make the transition was because I worked with other people, and no matter how frustrated we got when things didn't work, or how stupid we felt because the software was so completely non-intuitive, one of us would somehow always manage to drag the other two back from the brink of despair.

Date: 2004-12-15 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I feel very alone. All my FC friends are across the country but I might have to pick on poor SDwolfpup and like offer her boxes of Godiva chocolate because this thing is frustrating the hell out of me. I almost cried tonight when it started doing this weird boop boop boop thing as I tried to play a clip in the canvas and these lights were flashing at me on a kind of ladder bar and it looked like a core meltdown on the Enterprise. I just don't understand.

Thought I did discover something I knew: the jog shuttle. It looks different, but boy oh boy, a jog shuttle! whee, something I recognize by name!

Date: 2004-12-15 11:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
Thought I did discover something I knew: the jog shuttle.

Hey, that's cool. Premiere doesn't have that!

I think if I got FCE or FCP, I'd want to take a class like the one someone else mentioned. I can't read a manual and figure things out. I'm not that kind of learner. I need to be shown. And manuals suck, anyway, because they always seem to assume you already know how to use the program! Argh.

Good luck! I won't be at Escapade, but I'd love to see whatever you do!

Date: 2004-12-16 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackiekjono.livejournal.com
FCP comes with 1800 pages worth of manual. Eeek.

Date: 2004-12-16 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgandawn.livejournal.com
Zog like his meat raw...er, I mean Zog make his vid with talking parrot and hand puppets.

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