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First thoughts on Hawaii: I normally give a new show a couple of episodes before I decide whether or not I will keep watching. Pilots are often done at different times from a series once it's picked up, and frequently have different casts, crews, etc., so everyone is trying to find their footing and get a handle on the series' potential. Sometimes, of course, a show is so bad that you know right away it's not worth even two tries. And sometimes you can see what's there even though the network has fucked it up: witness Firefly.

I can't say Hawaii has untapped potential that's being worked out, but it's definitely not good from the get-go. I predict it will succeed, though. ;-) Partly because I think many people are so hungry for a basic old-fashioned stupid cop show that isn't just about forensics (god, my loathing for CSI and its clones knows no bounds, and this year I have to struggle with my hatred because my favorite actor, Gary Sinise, is going to be on CSI: New York... arg) or yet another Law & Order: CPU or something like that (they start with a computer crime, and we follow the case all the way through to trial!). And also partly because the stupid but fun and glitzy Las Vegas did well for NBC last year, and Hawaii reminds me of that in many ways. Check brain at door, watch for hotties. (Though it's obvious that NBC yet again has no clue who is in the audience; they heavily promote bikini-clad babes without even evidencing an ironic understanding that it will be women and gay men tuning in for the hunks.)

And lots of hotties are there to be watched. While Michael Biehn is ostensibly the lead (yay!), it's clear that they're positioning Sharif Atkins, as his partner Declan (sp?), as the smoothie girl-magnet for the show; and also Ivan Sergei as the anti-smoothie but supposedly intriguing hottie. Though that one is a hard sell for me especially, as I find him eminently unattractive and his character is repugnant, and not in a fun way. I like repugnant but interesting or funny, but characters like this have nothing redeeming in their offensiveness (which is why I could not warm to Nip/Tuck like I usually do to FX shows such as Rescue Me or The Shield, most of whose characters are repellant and offensive but really fun), and I think they wildly miscalculated that his looks would be enough to make women swoon and tune in every week. This guy, at least in the pilot, is just a fuckwit, and he makes the fuckwitted-but-charming-in-a-bad-boy-way guys of Rescue Me look all the more complex by comparison. I really hope they fix him -- if you don't already think he's smokin', you'd have no reason to want to watch him. By conrast, funny-lookin' cutie-patootie Eric Balfour, late of Six Feet Under, 24, and Veritas (!), comes off much better as he struggles with being tainted by Sergei's character as his partner.

There are a lot of other great players in the cast, but so far they don't have much to do. I especially want to see Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa get something to do besides be the same old same old police lieut (also, such an elegant man wearing only baggy shirts... what is with the baggy aloha shirts?). The story was very formulaic, but I did like the local color aspects (though their attempts at that hand-held camera immediacy kind of annoyed me frequently) and the attempt to get into native culture, and found myself going to a Lilo & Stitch place when the Hawaiian martial-arts guy talked about his "ohana." I was mentally going, "means family, and family means no one gets left behind." A part of me wonders why they premiered it so much earlier than other new shows; I wondered if it was because it's a rare drama that's not part of the above-mentioned franchises, and they wanted to get hold of the non-RNC-watching, bored to death audience as fast as they could.

And sadly, I know I will keep watching, if for no other reason than to see Michael Biehn in a grey t-shirt and flak vest (which, I would like to gripe about, we had to wait the whole hour for and see him in dorky baggy shirts instead), doing the thing he was born to do, carry and shoot guns. Yummy. He's finally added some poundage in his aging-gracefully years so now you can't see through him if he turns sideways, but he's still got the incredible bod and those arm muscles... I'm sorry, was I talking? It's certainly much better than MB's last show, Adventure Inc., which may be one of the most painful things ever seen. But it's a far cry from the show before it, Magnificent 7. I still weep copiously about the loss of that one.

Date: 2004-09-02 12:06 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
I'm glad Eric Balfour is getting some good airtime. I've liked him ever since he was killed off in the first and second episodes of Buffy.

Date: 2004-09-02 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Yeah, the poor guy never seems to last long, does he? That's one reason I liked him on Veritas -- he would have been a regular. Pity it last five eps before they yanked it. Sigh.

Date: 2004-09-02 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malisita.livejournal.com
Wait...what is this show? When's it on? What network?
Michael Biehn and Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa???? Along with Ivan Sergei? Oh, Man. That's a hot and cheesy recipe for Mala right there!

Mindless cop shows with some of my favorite B-list actors! Eeee!

Date: 2004-09-02 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Girlfriend, do you not have a TiVo? We must get you one post-haste! Actually, I'm at a loss to explain its schedule right now -- NBC surprised us by starting it earlier than other new fall shows, last night, and they are repeating the pilot numerous times, including both Friday and Sat. night. Then on Monday they have a new ep, and again on Wed. Both of which are listed to repeat... I have no idea what they're doing, and it's confusing. Is it going to be a Monday night show or a Wed night one? And what time? Becuase it aired at 8 last night and didn't seem entirely 8 o'clock material to me.

Check your local listings! I'm pretty sure you'll see many chance to catch it. ;-) And here's the official web page.
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Hawaii/index.shtml

Date: 2004-09-02 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malisita.livejournal.com
I am SUCH the candidate for a TiVo! Thanks for the link and the info. I will try to catch it on one of these confusing rerun nights! :).

Date: 2004-09-02 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movies-michelle.livejournal.com

I'm glad you posted the link to the main website. I hadn't seen it before.

I did notice that they're calling it NBC's new "Wednesday night show." So maybe that will be it's official timeslot? Or, you know, they'll just show it every night of the week. Are they just trying to cast as big a net as possible or do they really have nothing else ready?

Date: 2004-09-02 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falzalot.livejournal.com
Whew. Thanks for letting me know it repeats. My roommate and I were all set to watch it last night, but for some stupid reason, my sat. dish TIVO had the guide wrong, and was convinced it came on at 9:00 instead of 8:00.

Considering my roommate actually watched a good chunk of Adventures, Inc., just for MB, she was a little miffed. :->

Date: 2004-09-02 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisisbone.livejournal.com
Becuase it aired at 8 last night and didn't seem entirely 8 o'clock material to me.

Or a 7 o'clock show, as it is in our time zone. Nice severed heads for the kiddie hour, huh?

Date: 2004-09-02 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I know! I'm not much of a worrier about kids seeing certain things, but I have to admit I thought that was a bit much.

Date: 2004-09-02 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melinafandom.livejournal.com
I can't say Hawaii has untapped potential that's being worked out, but it's definitely not good from the get-go.

Despite my public statement of intent (http://www.livejournal.com/users/melina123/35358.html) not to watch this piece of crap despite the pretty, my TiVo has betrayed me! I came home last night and it was recording Hawaii, apparently having finally run out of "I Love the 80's" (and its clones) on VH-1. Btw, Mo Rocca is *so* going to hell for making fun of Beauty and the Beast. No making fun of Vincent! Anyway...

I'm really starting to think my TiVo has some kind of special attraction to highly addictive crap. It's becoming worrisome. And being the shallow fannish creature that I am, I'm supposed to now delete said crap without watching, I ask you? Yeah. Right...

(god, my loathing for CSI and its clones knows no bounds, and this year I have to struggle with my hatred because my favorite actor, Gary Sinise, is going to be on CSI: New York... arg)

Dude, you must watch, if for no other reason then to share my pain! I really hate CSI. Sigh.

Date: 2004-09-02 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
We're going to need medication this year, I think. What do you like? I'm partial to Vicodin, myself. I know everyone whomped on me on the gary list about CSI, but what I hate is that it pretends it's so accurate and so... dramatic, and it's just so phony and exposition-as-dialogy and so uninvolving and it wastes its guest stars. I showed Jo and Christy the NY spin-off on the Miami ep, and they just about died at how arch and absurd Caruso was... all I can do is pray that Gary brings his usual strengths to it. Otherwise, Vicodin.

Hawaii, on the other hand, is relatively painless, really. It's stupid, but not so's you want to hurt yourself. Your TiVo is just enabling.

Date: 2004-09-02 05:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] deejay.livejournal.com
Oh, woe is me. Local NBC here pre-empted 'Hawaii' for their obligatory, nonstop "HURRICANE FRANCES IS COMING AND WE ARE ALL GONNA FRICKIN' DIE!!!" coverage. No TIVO yet. And me a longtime 'Hawaii Five-O' fan who wanted to compare same for squealage of tires and coolness of villainry. *insert heavy sigh here, and pass me another sandbag, thanks...*

Date: 2004-09-02 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
No, no! Read above! They're repeating it ad nauseum, tomorrow night and Sat. and probably more.

Date: 2004-09-02 09:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com
*Giggles all the way through*

Babe, I want your icon.

Meep! Did you see this? The Legend of Butch & Sundance (http://imdb.com/title/tt0366709/), made for TV, with Biehn. I may be in love.

Date: 2004-09-02 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namastenancy.livejournal.com
Oh, Gwyn, I share your pain. I watched because..well..that wasn't anything else on and I'd be damned before I would watch the Repulsive Convention. I sort of liked Ivan Sergei in an old Canadian TV Show with Nick Lea. I forgot the name of the show but I liked Nick better than Ivan although the show did have some neat slashy vibes. And I absolutely cannot stand the black actor, the arrogant jerk with attitude who used to be on ER. ICKY! Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa has a great face; I love the angles and planes of his face but I suspect that he will have the same thankless role that Olmos did on Miami Vice - mere background for the mainstream eye candy. I did like the saturated colors that they used in certain shots, I thought the "plot" could have been written by a Freshman English Class and the action was far too predictable. I'm holding out for "Lost." I am not sure about how much eye candy there will be; so far, the emphasis seems to be on Dominic Monaghan. Now, I think he's a decent actor and could probably do a great edgy part but eye candy? The scruff, the bad skin, the receding hairline inexpertly hidden by back hair basted on the forehead? Not in my book. But it remains to be seen.
However, I will probably watch. Even if it's only to catch a glimpse of Michael Biehn (alas Magnificent 7) and certain selected members of the ensemble. Sharif Atkins has definite potential.

namaste nancy

Date: 2004-09-02 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mystic-savage.livejournal.com
CSI New York is the first adult tv show I've wanted to see in a long time. The cast looks amazing, and where could it be set for better or more creative dismemberment?

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