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One of the things about vidding is that you spend a lot of time looking at your source material with the sound off, something that brings out unnoticed moments in the visuals that suddenly take on new meaning. It's with the sound off that you can really see the characters who are having eye sex, where you notice odd little tics or motions. It brings an entirely new light to any source material (try it and you'll see what I mean). While I was capturing clips for Loaded Gun, I began to really look at the clothing that Dom, especially, wore, and noticed this time that it seemed heavily coded to create certain moods throughout the film. When you've got a star who's very fashion forward, as Vin Diesel is, and can wear almost any kind of clothing really well (and who has modeled a lot), you have an incredible canvas to work with in not just building character through clothes and set design, but also in telling the audience all kinds of things that happen in the movie between the lines. In the Fast and the Furious, I think they are sending heavily coded messages through wardrobe, particularly Dominic's.

I've rarely had as much friending for anything as I did for the the men in eyeliner post and later the white shirt post, and for some reason, people like it when I write meta about silly fashion things. Go figure. So after noticing how incredibly coded the clothing choices were in this movie and telling my theory to [livejournal.com profile] mlyn, who laughed about it, I thought I would explain just why the Fast and the Furious is gayer than any gay movie I've ever seen: it all comes down to clothing, or lack thereof.


The first time we see Dom, at the market, is our first exposure to clothing messages:
Dom wears a grimy work shirt, ostensibly button-down but with the sleeves cut off and then split at the shoulders for maximum muscle visibility. Unbuttoned to mid-chest so the outline of pecs is hinted at, the strong neck emphasized. It says that he is a tough-guy car mechanic grease monkey goombah, and that he could eat a scrawny guy like Brian as if he were half a sandwich -- no crust! Shorthand for the viewers, we’ve been filled in on just how rough and tumble Dom is with a quick glimpse of shirt, and sweat, and the way he ignores his beard girlfriend.

Next we see Dom at the street meet and race. Here he wears a classic sleeveless muscle tee in a slightly shiny fabric, his basic dark work pants, accented by a chain dangling from beltline to pocket alongside his hip; in this segment he wears lots of bling, which works to contrast sharply with the black, drawing attention to his face and chest. Again there is maximum muscle exposure of the arms, maximum fabric drape to hug the torso, all working together to successfully show off the narrowing of his waist from broad chest and shoulders. The pants are baggy enough not to look like he’s trying too hard, but shaped enough to at least show off his ass to some degree (not enough, if you ask me). Nothing could say look at me better than this outfit, but it also says I’m a true fashion whore. He stands out from everyone else, all the better to reel in the girls and the boys, because everyone is clearly in his thrall.
He adds a smart, very stylish reddish leather jacket to the ensemble later in the evening as he escapes from the cops. This projects a tough guy aura while not being clichéd black leather, minimizing the more attention-grabbing aspect of the muscle shirt with bling-bling accents. It doesn’t work, of course, because the cops recognize his big bald head, and a thin leather jacket isn’t much of a disguise when you’re carrying around one of those.
The first thing he does when he gets home is take off his jacket. Because it’s hot, or because he must reassert dominance among his feckless friends and family? The leather jacket would of course cover up his alpha male musculature and drama queen antics. So, it must go immediately. Less clothing, more drama.

Next we get the blinding white tank and overalls. This outfit maximizes everything. Shoulders, pecs, back, neck, abs, everything. The white calls dramatic attention to his brown skin and offers maximum eye-catch capability as he puts his arms up, showing off. The whole effect is enhanced stunningly by the overalls, which are undone to the hips, hanging there suggestively, saying, “one tug and they’re off.” Nothing could be more gay photo-essay-like than this outfit, and what Dom does with it (the provocative canned beverage he waves about, the constant shifting of his body, raising of arms to create an aura of openness, etc.) The overalls dropped casually at his hips also emphasize his narrower waist and hips, making his upper torso look even stronger, bigger. We know from a later scene with Letty that the overalls can in fact be tugged off for quick and easy access to his spectacular bod. Since they can’t have Brian pull them off in a standard Hollywood movie, Letty serves as our heterosexual confirmation of this theory.
This ensemble is the male equivalent of women’s Fuck Me Shoes. Fuck Me Shoes have high heels that elongate the leg to make them more shapely and arch the back, pushing the butt out just a little. Almost any woman will look a little sexier in FMS, and their extra touches -- curved heels, ankle straps that wrap or tie, open toes or cutouts -- are always designed to enhance their sex appeal. Dom’s whole outfit, his Fuck Me Outfit, screams “I’m a sex god and I’m open for business.” Since he barely knows Brian at this point in the movie, there must be a reason he wears it.
How do we know that Brian and Dom are either already, or will be momentarily, doing it? Besides the flirting, sparkling, grinning at each other, and the waving, pointing, and touching with a long metal rod? Because Dom is wearing his Fuck Me Outfit on the off chance that Brian might show up. The stark white undershirt (I have issues with the term wifebeater, sorry, and try to minimize my use of it) , sweat-damp and form-fitting, ensures that Brian gets the message just as clearly as straps over the ankles and kitten heels speak theirs for women. The V of the open overalls right above the groin add emphasis to that area and send their erotic message loud and clear -- it’s not just “let’s do it, right here in the garage,” but “let’s do it, right here in the garage, dammit” thanks to those open overalls.

Dom is next seen more modestly in his Von Dutch shirt. Deep blue with a hint of purple, button down, short sleeve. The most dressed he’s been that we know of since the start of the movie (not including the leather jacket attempt at camouflage). This says he’s hip and happening. Though there is some controversy over the Von Dutch name and its appropriation for a clothing and accessories line, that doesn’t stop it from being something the cool kids want to wear, and on Dom it says that he’s cooler than thou. Plus, the color is stunning on him for such a plain piece of clothing. He really is a fashion forward kind of guy, the way no straight man ever is.

Ah, the black V-neck of mystery. Dom comes out of the darkness like some kind of olive-skinned wraith, wearing the black V-neck tee that shows off the beautiful biceps, the exquisite hollow of his throat, drawing attention once again to his unusual face (this is the superiority of V-necks, the way they pull the eye up to the face). With the black pants, this outfit conveys mystique, power. There is no bling this time (though there is definitely a gun, which in some circles could be considered serious bling-bling). Everything here emphasizes his balletic, weirdly dancer-like movements, the way he jumps down from the ceiling in the Trans’ garage, how forcefully he moves, almost stalking Brian when confronting him about whether he’s a cop or not. This is Dom’s most powerful outfit and possibly his sexiest, just because of its monochromatic simplicity and night-stalker vibe. Clearly, he wears it to confront Brian because he knows the power it conveys, the sheer unadulterated sexiness. Brian will be putty in his hands with this ensemble.

For the garage confessional Dom returns to the Von Dutch blue. Because, I assume, it’s a serious though fashionable shirt that says, “I’m a working guy, I know cars, I know how to be cool,” yet at the same time its classic dark hue allows the attention to be solely on Dom the person as he confesses his terrible story to Brian. The shirt picks up the slatted darks and lights of the garage and counterpoints his skin, highlighting his face. With the dark backgrounds of the garage and the darkness of the shirt, Dom’s skin glows, making him almost as ethereal as Brian in this highly emotional scene.

When they test out the Supra, Dom is nearly prissy in his grey-blue button front shirt, short sleeves again, and khaki trousers, his little laptop the prim accessory that conveniently covers his lap, as well. This look is all business. It’s business, dammit! This is the kind of outfit you wear to make sure everyone knows that you are not thinking of fucking the guy driving the car. The drape of the shirt fabric is still just that little bit sexy, and the sunglasses definitely say Yes, I’m sexay. But the rest of the look screams “I’m doing business here and I’m not thinking about fucking the blond.” Who knew that our resident fashion plate could be this demure? In fact, one could almost say Dominic looks like an average guy. With giant muscles, a sexy shaved head, multicultural features, an $80,000 car at his disposal, and an obviously enthralled sex slave kind of average guy.

Dom’s white v-neck at the end of the movie signifies many things, one of which is to purify him as he tries to save the life of one of his own, pull off his last crime job and provide for his makeshift family, and come to realize the error of his ways. We the audience need to see the blood of his friends spattered across this pristine shirt in order to understand that he must atone, but there is also the sex appeal of the white T-shirt, the V-neck again drawing attention to his neck and face, the fit just tight enough to show muscles but not so tight as to yell “I’m gay.” His pants are charcoal, creating a classic light/dark look -- for the character who is both light and dark. As his life unravels farther and farther, the shirt gets sweatier, bloodier, and dirtier, a map of his suffering, the sullying of his purity in Brian’s worshipful eyes. The two of them together are contrasts, but the black tee and the white tee both serve to emphasize their golden, flushed skin tones as they share their post-orgasmic look after crossing in front of the train during their little simultaneous-orgasm race.
The only time Dom’s outfit changes from Race Wars on is when he adds a short black cloth jacket to complete the look as he’s heading out to perform one last crime job. It’s cold out in the desert at night, people! Plus, he must cover the white shirt of purity. By the time they’ve reached the trucks, though, he’s lost it. The movie is about showing off these two spectacular male specimens, and let’s face it, jackets only obscure the issue.

In the Baja tag, Dom wears what looks like a black, short-sleeved button-down. Well, he’s free. He no longer has to show off his fashion plate stylings because no one is there to care. He can unbutton it as far as he needs to in the heat. Brian will be down there soon, anyway, to take it off.

The deleted scene, if you look carefully at the coded messages of F&F clothing, clearly had to be cut. There is simply too much going on here that isn’t coded. This says, We’re on the cover of a gay porn video. This says at least someone in this group is doing it, and we’re pretty sure who based on the constant close-ups of Dom’s abs and pecs for no particular reason, counterpointed with long shots of highly phallic car parts, and pans across Brian’s reclining body. Dom and Brian are next to each other, looking at each other constantly while half-naked, sitting on top of a car, golden bodies glistening with sweat in the summer sun. There is no one who could watch this scene and not know instantly that this is a gay movie. The scene was obviously excised because its content was simply too explicit compared to the rest of the carefully arranged messages elsewhere.

Brian, however, has less subtle messages:
In the beginning he wears a black T-shirt, which we will see again in the middle and end of the movie. He appears to have about 7 or 8 separate T-shirts with him in the little room he has at Harry’s. It’s hard to tell if this is always how he dresses, or if it’s just for this undercover position, but he has no real sense of style, just goes for the basic, sloppy, average guy clothes.

He changes to grey heather when he needs to clean up for work. Logo’d.

For the street meet, he wears dark blue with a contrast collar. What a fashion plate!

His next T-shirt is a variation on the same, just lighter blue with contrast collar.

Brian is next in a plain white tee in his scene with Jesse and then at the barbecue, after we’ve seen Dom in his white undershirt. The blinding whiteness emphasizes his golden skin, the pale blue eyes. It serves as perfect contrast to Dom’s dark blue Von Dutch shirt. Maybe Brian has picked up that the whiteness is sexy and hot from seeing Dom earlier.

With Hector at Racer’s Edge, this one is a dark charcoal grey, almost black. Later he’s wearing what’s probably the same thing with a black leather jacket when he snoops around. This looks like the only other time that Brian does not wear the Chucks outside of the SWAT/post-raid scene. Boots mean business, dammit!

When arguing with his superiors he goes for a medium grey heather. It has blue tones in the end of the scene, though, so it’s hard to tell if it’s really grey, or if it’s a trick of the lighting and filters. In the next scene, at the garage, he’s returned to his medium blue with dark blue contrast collar.

At dinner with Mia, Brian goes wild! He wears a long-sleeved black tee. This one says “formal, baby.” He may be a slob, but he can at least go out to a restaurant. The shirt looks stunning, the only fitted shirt he wears in the movie, and it shows off beautifully his build, his nice hands. His skin and hair contrast with the deep black for maximum sex appeal. Obviously he will wear it another night with Dom, because it would lure anyone.

The only times Brian shows skin are in the little closet at Harry’s, first when he takes off his shirt to change, and then when he sleeps with Mia, which we all know he did because he couldn’t do Dom in a major Hollywood movie. Why is this the only place we see skin? Because it’s safe, that’s why. He’s nowhere near Dom, this is his refuge and cover. (See remarks on deleted scene).

When he’s in trouble for the raid, Brian wears a greenish grey shirt with a logo on the front. Such daring! He also still wears the boots from the previous activities.

Dark grey shirt with contrast pale grey collar for the Ferrari race and tense scene at Neptune’s Net -- because he must contrast with Dom’s soft, demure blue-grey. Again he is much more casual and sloppy in contrast to Dominic, enhancing his “kid” status, newbie persona within the group.

Through the entire end of the movie, Brian wears black, to bookend his first scenes and to contrast with the purity of Dom’s white shirt. This black is solid, grounded. And doesn’t show blood and dirt nearly as much, so it’s much more practical.

In conclusion:
Dom is one of the most fashion-forward, body-conscious men of style since Richard Gere in American Gigolo (or Liam Neeson in Gun Shy, but no one saw that movie). Everything he wears is carefully chosen and contrasted with Brian’s lack of fashion to create a message that he is on top of his game, and he looks good doing it. And that this movie is gayer than a gay thing in every possible way.

Date: 2005-07-12 05:36 pm (UTC)
ext_9063: (Check out the eye candy in aisle four)
From: [identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com
BEST subject line at the top of my flist EVER, omg. I don't know if I can stop laughing before I have to go to my noon appointment.

Okay, now I go read.

Date: 2005-07-12 05:47 pm (UTC)
ext_9063: (-Beard!  -What?  -BEARD!  What's the mat)
From: [identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com
Yaay! *Applause* Oh god, this was hilarious. Thank you so much for getting it out this quickly. I'm going to go pimp it on my journal.

Just a quick note, first: create and aura

Date: 2005-07-12 05:48 pm (UTC)
ext_9063: (Dom is a Briansexual)
From: [identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com
PS: I think "wifebeaters" are also called A-line tees, or something like that. I know there's another name.

PPS: Contrast-collar tees are also called ringer tees.

Date: 2005-07-12 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maygra.livejournal.com
I've always hear them called either just undershirts (both my grandfather and father owre that style) or tank style. "T-shirt" I think came out for the sleeved type becasue they looked like the letter "T" when laid out.

Ah, the interesting trivia fandom brings us.

Date: 2005-07-14 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you. I hope it met your expectations. Kind of went off in a different direction, but when I thought of the title, I had to do it anyway.

Date: 2005-07-14 07:21 am (UTC)
ext_9063: (Slashing is a team effort)
From: [identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com
It did feel like it had veered off course a little, but it was still hilarious. More so, in some spots. I'd say it's a success no matter what.

Date: 2005-07-12 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minotaurs.livejournal.com
I love my big, gay fandom.

Date: 2005-07-14 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
See, just the other day, someone was criticizing my assertion that it was a gay movie. And I said, hey, even the officially gay think it's gayer than a gay thing. She didn't believe me, and thought I was being insulting. Sigh. All you have to do is watch it!

Date: 2005-07-12 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maygra.livejournal.com
OMG! I am really rolling on the floor. The guy in the office across from me is givingme looks. This is *Very* fun and oh, so true...

now what I want to know is does Brian's style improve in 2F2F or is he just mimicing Dom becasue he's pining?

Date: 2005-07-14 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
You know, to me, Brian got worse on a logarithmic scale in 2F2F. I mean, his clothing was God-awful -- long, baggy "shorts", white socks, the Chucks again, even sloppier t-shirts. I think it was clear that their separation with D in Baja and B in Miami resulted in truly tragic sartorial consequences. He needs D with him at all times to prevent fashion accidents.

Date: 2005-07-12 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supercaptain182.livejournal.com

the coded messages of F&F clothing, clearly had to be cut. There is simply too much going on here that isn’t coded. This says, We’re on the cover of a gay porn video. This says at least someone in this group is doing it


Like the vid, this fashion exposé is really hot. It's like having the secret signals in some type of testosterone induced mating ritual explained.The "sexy" one places subtle hints in the eyecandy. The "pretty" doesn't dress up at all. But reading the signals leads to getting laid. Those scenes would definitely be cut. This is truly awesome and now my mind has evoked the images of peacocks. Fashion is as important as the cars in this movie. Great! Absolutely hilarious

Date: 2005-07-14 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thank you! You know, that's really it -- peacocks, strutting their stuff. That's so Dom, all the way, and he has to have the biggest, boldest set of feathers, to be the bigggest male.

Date: 2005-07-12 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelly-girl.livejournal.com
This was wonderful. Now I feel like going back to watch it all over again.

This had me cackling with laughter:

It doesn’t work, of course, because the cops recognize his big bald head, and a thin leather jacket isn’t much of a disguise when you’re carrying around one of those.

I remember thinking the first few times I watched the movie that that jacket wasn't much of a disguise.


I think the overalls + white tee ensemble is my favorite. The way he walked with the little twist while wearing that and how he laughed and flirted with Brian.

Oh that deleted scene was so gay plus I love the fact that they are talking about their 'first times.' Yeah, first time driving but we all know what they meant. And we all know shirtless Dom showed shirtless Brian a few moves later on.

If you get a chance, please post this to Quarter Mile.

Date: 2005-07-12 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maygra.livejournal.com
Okay, that just gives a whole other layer to the meaning of Brian getting rear ended on his first time out...[*veg*]

::falls over laughing::

Date: 2005-07-14 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I know -- I could NOT believe that deleted scene the first time I saw it. I was just gobsmacked that they would have shirtless guys, phallic car parts, and sitting around with LONG-NECK beer bottles, talking about their first times. Oh, sure, driving, but I mean, as if anyone's going to believe that's not another code.

I love that little twist in his walk, too -- it's almost like he's skipping. And really, does it get any gayer than that?

Date: 2005-07-12 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadymae.livejournal.com
Y'know, just when I think you're a genius, you pull out a can of supergenius whoopass.

You've so *got* to present this as a panel, complete with clips, at next year's Escapade.

Date: 2005-07-12 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lierdumoa.livejournal.com
YES.

Best idea ever. I concur.

Date: 2005-07-14 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you, hon. You know, that's not entirely a bad idea, about a panel. I wonder if anyone would vote for it this year? It seemed like our little fandom that could didn't get enough votes this year... but maybe with a title like that, we might get more votes. ;-) I could make video diagrams and Tina could dig me up some good gay photography to use as backup.

Date: 2005-07-12 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burningchaos.livejournal.com
A wonderful read, thank you so much. BTW Gun Shy is so one of my favorite movies. Have loved it for years...

Date: 2005-07-14 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Yay, someone else who's seen Gun Shy. The wardrobe they gave Liam in that movie was breathtaking, and I wish that more people had seen it just so I could use it as a frame of reference when talking about fashion. Plus it had a kickass soundtrack, and one of my favorite lines ever, that I use as a .sig line -- "His pain is my gift to you."

Date: 2005-07-14 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burningchaos.livejournal.com
OMG I know I love that line. Wonderful movie I am always telling people to see it...

Date: 2005-07-12 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixchel55.livejournal.com
So hysterically funny and yet so accurate.

There were times when watching this movie when I wondered just how much input the actors had in their wardrobe.

Besides his macrame bracelet, Paul wears fairly identical clothes in all his movie (an exception would be Skulls where he was very preppie).

And Vin, even when he played the very macho cop in Man Apart wore clothes that were quite similar in a lot of ways, just not as flashy.

Yeah, the cars aren't the only thing in tF&tF that are tarted up for effect! And Paul's slob-like wardrobe merely re-emphasizes the fact that the boy could look beautiful in a potato sack.

Ever since [livejournal.com profile] mlyn mentioned this idea of yours I've been itching to read it. I was thrilled to see it so soon and as ever, the content doesn't disappoint.

Thanks for the...erm, blow by blow.

Date: 2005-07-12 09:39 pm (UTC)
ext_9063: (Car erection)
From: [identity profile] mlyn.livejournal.com
Thanks for the...erm, blow by blow.

Rotf! Good one, Dawmie!

Date: 2005-07-12 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixchel55.livejournal.com
Heh! That's me. Mistress of the obvious pun!

Date: 2005-07-14 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I swear the only time PW ever looks good is when he's posing for magazine spreads, because someone else is dressing him. He clearly has no sense of style, it's just surf stuff and t-shirts. I wouldn't have minded his suit with tennis shoes at the MTV awards, even though it's kind of a sad cliche, except that his suit didn't fit at all. He needs Vin's help! Because Vin is so fashion-forward (I'm especially fond of his leather kilt that he wore to the Euro MTV awards). And of course, there has to have been something going on with those two when they were making that movie -- a lot of that didn't look like just acting! ;-)

Date: 2005-07-14 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Actually, I should amend that -- I hate that we can't edit comments. What I mean is that PW only ever looks FASHIONABLY good when he's posing for spreads. Yes, he could look good in a potato sack, it's just that I wish sometimes he would let himself look nice with the clothing part. I've never understood why handome men like him and JOhnny Depp and others dress like homeless people -- I get the pushing attention away thing, but do they have to go that far? It's unfair to womanhood everywhere.

Date: 2005-07-12 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lierdumoa.livejournal.com
I've got to agree w/ [livejournal.com profile] mlyn. This is definitely the best subject line ever.

Oh, man -- thank you so much for pointing these things out. I didn't notice the clothes when I was vidding it, but then, I myself am more like Brian when it comes to attention to wardrobe.

Date: 2005-07-14 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thanks! Well, I think that no matter what we are like ourselves, we can pick up on those not even remotely subtle codes with wardrobe there. They practically spelled it out for us with closed captioning!

Date: 2005-07-12 11:25 pm (UTC)
brynwulf: (nobody's bitch)
From: [personal profile] brynwulf
I'm so glad Kadymae sent me over here at her journal. What a great essay. And people say that muscle car movies are shallow and nothing but eye-candy. This would make a good chapter in a College Thesis!!!

Date: 2005-07-14 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Heh -- but hey, I bet they would make me clean up that title!

Date: 2005-07-13 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-bird-777.livejournal.com
Brilliant and hysterical! I think I'll watch the movie with the sound off tonight! :-)

Date: 2005-07-14 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
You know how you never hear dialog and stuff because you're so focused on the guys? This would be the ideal situation for you!

Date: 2005-07-13 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onetree2many.livejournal.com
This is too cool. You had me laughing my butt off. People thought I was crazy. I really enjoyed your 'fashion report' from beginning to end.
Catty

Date: 2005-07-14 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thanks, Catty! I'm really glad I could make you laugh. Sometimes these days that's one of the things that keeps me going, being able to do something others enjoy.

Date: 2005-07-13 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-artisan.livejournal.com
LOL! Too absolutely perfect. It's moments like these I'm glad I don't have LJ access at work! *g*

Date: 2005-07-14 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
You know, this is the best thing about working at home -- I no longer have to worry about work safe stuff, and when I cackle hysterically, no one asks me to explain!

Date: 2005-07-16 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firstgold.livejournal.com
Thanks so much for this! [livejournal.com profile] mlyn linked to it, and I would have read it earlier, but I decided to rewatch the movie first. Luckily, it was on TV a couple of nights ago. Everything you've said makes complete sense, but it's all stuff that I didn't really think about (consciously) while watching the movie.

Date: 2005-07-18 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
That really is the best part about having to look at things with no sound -- it forces your eye to other things. I tend to be fairly observant in general, early writing training, I think, but it's rare that you get such a *reward* for being observant about small details. This movie totally rewards you with silly things like this. It's like they wrote it so that we might be able to find these messages out.

Date: 2005-07-17 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisisbone.livejournal.com
Hee! Why is it that every time you put your hands to TF&TF, I want to go watch it again?

Date: 2005-07-18 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Mwa ha ha ha!!! I have such power!

You know, the weirdest part of this is that now I want to write a PWP of a strip poker game. I got the idea wedged in my head after I finished this. I never write PWPs. I don't know how! But now I'm all "strip poker!" Clothes coming off!

Date: 2005-07-18 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisisbone.livejournal.com
You know, the weirdest part of this is that now I want to write a PWP of a strip poker game. I got the idea wedged in my head after I finished this. I never write PWPs. I don't know how! But now I'm all "strip poker!" Clothes coming off!

SQUEE!! OMG!!! Write that. Like, NOW, please.

Date: 2008-03-23 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bionic.livejournal.com
Whew, I know it's been a while since you posted this, but I loved reading your meta! Also, I have a quick question -

the Baja scene and the Dom and Brian looking at each other half naked part - which dvd edition is that from? I have the collector's edition, but I'm guessing it's the Tricked Out Edition maybe, with even more deleted scenes?

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