TV or not TV
Oct. 28th, 2008 04:14 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I've been thinking about changing my TV service to satellite for a lot of reasons, one of which is that it might be cheaper and right now, cheaper is good, while still maintaining my ability to rely on TV to keep me entertained as I adjust to all these changes in life. I've been talking to friends with DirecTV and they seem happy with both their TiFaux and package, and they say they haven't had weather issues to deal with, etc. I think DTV might be better than Dish Network for my location, but I see both in my neighborhood. I walked down my alley today and I counted 9 houses with a satellite, which surprised me a lot.
I've always hated Comcast and everyone before them for their monopoly and bad service. Every once in a while, I get good people, but more often than not, I don't. I will say that since they went to underground cable, I've never had problems with transmissions -- my cable doesn't go out even in windstorms. But what I want is HD -- I have an HD-ready TV, but I really don't want to add yet more money onto my bill, which is already incredibly high for a sporadically employed person, just to get an HD box. I still wouldn't have an HD digital video recorder, and it looks like not only is there a package with a fairly low price for one year that includes a free (after rebate) HD DVR in one but you get a pretty nice level of extra channels for a while, for free, as well.
My main issue is that my TV, while HD-ready, is just old enough that it doesn't have an HDMI port, and we've never been able to get the component video cables to work with it, even though everyone said we had stuff set up correctly and there are plenty o' ports for the damn things. They've just been dangling off the back of the receiver the whole time I've had it. Now, it's not totally outside the realm of possibility I might be able to get a newer plasma tv in the near future, and if push came to shove, well, I'd just make that my priority to pay for one with HDMI or something, or find a way to make those ridiculously expensive component cables work.
But! What I'm wondering is... oh flist...
I've always hated Comcast and everyone before them for their monopoly and bad service. Every once in a while, I get good people, but more often than not, I don't. I will say that since they went to underground cable, I've never had problems with transmissions -- my cable doesn't go out even in windstorms. But what I want is HD -- I have an HD-ready TV, but I really don't want to add yet more money onto my bill, which is already incredibly high for a sporadically employed person, just to get an HD box. I still wouldn't have an HD digital video recorder, and it looks like not only is there a package with a fairly low price for one year that includes a free (after rebate) HD DVR in one but you get a pretty nice level of extra channels for a while, for free, as well.
My main issue is that my TV, while HD-ready, is just old enough that it doesn't have an HDMI port, and we've never been able to get the component video cables to work with it, even though everyone said we had stuff set up correctly and there are plenty o' ports for the damn things. They've just been dangling off the back of the receiver the whole time I've had it. Now, it's not totally outside the realm of possibility I might be able to get a newer plasma tv in the near future, and if push came to shove, well, I'd just make that my priority to pay for one with HDMI or something, or find a way to make those ridiculously expensive component cables work.
But! What I'm wondering is... oh flist...
- Do you have satellite?
- If so, what do you think of it? Who are you with?
- Do you find it better than cable?
- Do you think of it as a better deal (right now, I'm paying for expanded basic cable and my TiVo service separately, so I'm curious about people who have different types of services)?
- Are you happy with your DVR if it's not the TiVo?
- Do you get HD, any of you, either through cable or satellite?
- Do you think the service people are better with satellite than cable (I'm asking this because if they are, maybe I'd be lucky enough to get someone who can help me get my strange setup to work).
- And just overall, what thoughts would you share with someone who's considering the move?
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Date: 2008-10-28 11:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-30 12:19 am (UTC)a rambling response
Date: 2008-10-29 12:18 am (UTC)Re: a rambling response
Date: 2008-10-30 12:24 am (UTC)I am sad about losing my Canadian TV station. I think that's the hardest thing about switching and still makes me sad -- when Comcast got rid of it years ago, I missed it horribly, especially at Olympics time, and then when I got it back we actually celebrated with drinks!
Re: a rambling response
Date: 2008-10-30 12:47 am (UTC)Losing interesting stations, particularly non-local ones, is always a bummer. When our local package started carrying our UPN and WB channels and we lost the NYC/LA/Denver/Chicago grouping I was sad.
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Date: 2008-10-29 01:23 am (UTC)I don't have a DVR or HD.
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Date: 2008-10-30 01:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-29 01:33 am (UTC)I'm using my TiVo with FIOS, since it has Lifetime service. Alas, it's not an HD Tivo, and I just can't afford one right now, which means my tv image does not fill my tv screen when I watch through the Tivo -- only if I go live, through the set top box.
If it's not an option though,
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Date: 2008-10-30 01:39 am (UTC)But I would love to get away from the internet-landline-cell bills and to be able to get tV too would be great. But I fear that is far away for the nonce. I've kicked myself off and on about not getting lifetime service on the TiVo, but I guess now maybe I'm glad. I really love the interface and not so much the DirectTV one, but... to save myself some money, it might be the way to go until the fuckers at Verizon ever make FIOS a reality here. I mean, this is SEATTLE, for god's sake. Dotcom city. And we can't even get fiber optics!
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Date: 2008-10-29 01:38 am (UTC)They will be installing Thursday, so next week I'll be able to tell you how we like the DirecTV DVR and what I think of their programming.
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Date: 2008-10-30 01:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-21 01:19 am (UTC)Anyway, probably easiest thing to do is, if you get it and do the O.o thang, send me your phone number and I'll give you a call and walk you through it. :-) Believe you me, I needed that!!
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Date: 2008-10-29 01:58 am (UTC)Re: vs. cable, I think it takes longer to switch channels this way, and occasionally I have to wait while it "tunes."
It is cheaper than cable here, though, with the DVR I have. DVR is okay - better than my last, worse than my first. I don't get HD.
I will say this if you're having trouble with Comcast - the very first place you should go is Twitter ("comcastcares"). It is the fastest, easiest way to get someone at Comcast to listen to you, guaranteed.
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Date: 2008-10-30 01:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-29 03:30 am (UTC)Yes. Made the switch about seven years ago (at a guess), when DirecTV offered a free TiVo for new customers.
If so, what do you think of it? Who are you with?
I've never regretted switching, even though it meant paying for two lifetime accounts (original TiVo, then DirecTiVo). I'm with DirecTV.
Do you find it better than cable?
Yes. Better picture, and the DirecTiVo (and now the TiFaux) record at higher quality at lower memory than I ever got with the original TiVo.
Do you think of it as a better deal (right now, I'm paying for expanded basic cable and my TiVo service separately, so I'm curious about people who have different types of services)?
Probably about the same amount of money, except that the cable company annoyed me no end when they offered a free month of digital cable, and when I didn't see an improvement, didn't want to give my old service back.
Are you happy with your DVR if it's not the TiVo?
I'd rather have a real TiVo, but the DVR is acceptable. The most annoying lack-of-feature is that the TiFaux doesn't have a "skip to the next tick mark" feature. It takes forever to fast-forward through long things, even though the TiFaux has four levels of fast-forward, not just three.
Do you get HD, any of you, either through cable or satellite?
Yes. Switched about a year ago.
Do you think the service people are better with satellite than cable (I'm asking this because if they are, maybe I'd be lucky enough to get someone who can help me get my strange setup to work).
Maybe. I've had a couple of very patient tech support people from DirecTV, where it took an hour-plus phone call to get things working, but where we were ultimately successful. I don't remember having comparable problems with cable, but I didn't have as complicated a system then, either.
And just overall, what thoughts would you share with someone who's considering the move?
I was really leery about making the switch originally to DirecTV. If it hadn't been a combination of a wonderful deal (free TiVo) and TimeWarner pissing me off at the right time, I might never have made the jump. And the only problem I've ever had is very occasional weather-related issues. The DirecTV customer service has been quite good, too.
On a related note, I have an HD DirecTV TiVo (a real one, not a TiFaux -- got it from my parents when they moved to a condo that only had Comcast) that I ended up having to give up using because it's not compatible with an oval satellite dish, and that's the only way to get local channels other than over the air. I bought an HD antenna and got great HD reception over the air, but for some reason the TiVo refused to recognize the over-the-air inputs.
If you don't need an oval dish, I could pass on the TiVo to you.
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Date: 2008-10-30 01:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-29 04:29 am (UTC)Do you have satellite?
If so, what do you think of it? Who are you with?
Yes. We're with DishNetwork. I've been VERY happy with them over the years... Good quality signal and the few times we've had problems, we've gotten excellent service from them.
Do you find it better than cable?
We've had Dishnetwork for about 9 years, I think, so my answer here is a bit useless for what you really want to know... but yeah, I think it's a whole lot better than what we were able to get from cable (the only two channels I've found that I miss, because they're not available over satellite, are NWCN and CBC).
Do you think of it as a better deal
For what we're getting, there's no way we could get as good a deal through cable. For what we want to get when we switch to HD, we've crunched the numbers and it's still going to end up being a better deal.
Are you happy with your DVR if it's not the TiVo?
We *love* our DVR. I've never used TiVo, so I can't really compare, but the DishDVR is easy to use and has a lot of useful features.
Do you get HD, any of you, either through cable or satellite?
Not yet, but we're planning on it and doing research into it now. Someone else already mentioned it, but the other option we've been exploring is FIOS. We're still leaning heavily toward DishNetwork, though.
Do you think the service people are better with satellite than cable.
We had horrible experiences with the service people from the cable company... but we haven't ever had anyone from DishNetwork come out to our house. The few times we've had problems with our receiver, they cross-shipped a new one to us and we got it in a day or two (we basically wore out our first DVR -- it was early days and we had the first model they ever released).
And just overall, what thoughts would you share with someone who's considering the move?
One of the things that has made us shy away from cable and look more at satellite and FIOS is that Comcast recently released info that they're actually throttling back the HD signal on their feeds... so, while they're technically in HD, they're not as high quality as they could be.
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Date: 2008-10-30 02:01 am (UTC)I'm actually most concerned about losing CBC. I don't know why they can't carry it, but that is the one thing that is weighing hardest on my decision. I use it a lot, but then, I would get even more channels, including BBC America and IFC, so... would that make me happier? I don't know.
::Is sad::
And also, I'd get more channels but with less money, and that is really hard to pass up. A year of more for less... plus a free upgraded faux TiVo and maybe even HD at last.