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Sometimes I don't even do two posts in one week, let alone two in one day. But I have to get all this stuff done so I can go see the sneak peek of Hidalgo tonight! Wheee... Viggo and horsies, and it's free!

I finally finished that Buffy story I kept yammering about. I kept referring to it as the experimental piece -- I wanted to play with normal prose rules and had become interested in some of the prose poetry and flash fiction tricks out there in the writing community at large. It's not either of those things, but I was interested in the way some of the newer writing forms allow you to play with punctuation, structure, and narrative rules, which is what I was trying to do here. Probably most people, if they even get farther than the first section, will think I was on crack (but it was really *good* crack!), but anyway. It also interested me to play around with the religious implications of Buffy's death in The Gift. I know it makes me a little repetitive and unoriginal, but I keep finding myself drawn to that episode as a jumping off point for what-if AUs based around or after it.

If you're not scared off by now, you can find Assumption here . And yeah, some of the things that might seem like mistakes... are actually very deliberate.

Date: 2004-02-12 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisjournal.livejournal.com
I am without words, Gwyn. This is amazing. Thank you.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'm glad it didn't turn out to be as weird as I'd feared it might seem. ;-)

Date: 2004-02-12 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magarettt.livejournal.com
That's gorgeous. I adore it. Really enjoyed the poeticness of it and the changing point of view. Excellent, excellent work.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thank you! I really enjoyed doing such dramatically different voices, it was a good challenge.

Date: 2004-02-12 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistakency.livejournal.com
That was beautiful. Honestly, I was apprehensive about the narrative structure at first, but the POV shifts worked wonderfully. The language flowed so well, and the last two lines?

Wow.

Thank you.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I'm glad that it worked okay for you -- I worried a lot about that structure at first (ask [livejournal.com profile] sweet_ali, my wonderful, wonderful beta reader, and she will confirm my squeamishness about it!), so I'm glad it was worth working through it! Yay!

Date: 2004-02-12 05:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] monanotlisa.livejournal.com
Scared off? Is that Gwynish for "really damn fascinated"? & ;-)

Huge fan of your writing, as you should know-- adore your lyrical, highly evocative style, the splendid characterisation, and the very stories you tell, so I am looking forward to read this new part of your oeuvre. Can't promise heaps of it, but I will definitely give you feedback. If anyone deserves it, it's you.
(Flattery my middle name? Where did you get *that* idea? *g* No, honestly. Coolness!)

Date: 2004-02-12 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amerella.livejournal.com
I too loved the last lines.

I know it makes me a little repetitive and unoriginal...

Definitely not. You put your own spin on everything, yet it rang true. As a whole I found this piece both original and breathtaking. I can't tell you how much I appreciated it. Just beautiful.

Thanks for sharing. ^_^

Date: 2004-02-14 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you, you are most kind. I did feel like I was going back to the well again, but the truth is that The Gift and everything after have such a strong opportunity, there's so much you can do with that story, that it's hard not to keep going back.

Assumption

Date: 2004-02-12 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiashome.livejournal.com
Lovely, lovely, lovely ... I couldn't stop reading once I started. I loved your S6 AU world of Spike finding and taking care of Buffy and his wonderful relationship with Dawn. And parts of this read like beautiful poetry, really. So many lines made me teary, but especially these:

Spike rested his forehead on the mangled claw of hand, licked the blood from her fingers and arm like sacrament, a host inside his body to sanctify. She tasted of death.

and

And then she kissed him, oh, she kissed him, and he had a taste an aroma a feeling of heaven, her heaven. Buffy's mouth against his and lips searching for life brought him alive, into her. She was around him and in him like water, flowing, rippling, falling with a great noise and torrent.

and

I love him, but I belong to heaven now.

And he still belongs to hell.


Thanks for this, Gwyn.

Re: Assumption

Date: 2004-02-14 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm so glad you liked it! Muchas smooches!

Date: 2004-02-12 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbo.livejournal.com
Wow, Gwyn. My expectations of your writing are always high, and you always manage to exceed them. Not repetitive, not unoriginal, but wonderful and beautiful.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
That really, really means a lot to me, and I thank you profusely for it. I always worry that I'm returning to certain places in the 'verse too often, but I'm glad to know that this spin on it worked.

Date: 2004-02-12 08:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] varina8.livejournal.com
This is just lovely. Thanks for posting it.


I'll also be curious to hear your thoughts on Hidalgo. I went last night.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I liked the movie for the most part, but I ended up not being able to write a review of it because the audience I saw it with was so unbelievably horrid that it made it hard to separate my feelings about the film from the whole wretched experience. I don't think people would believe me if I told them about the woman who came in 20 minutes late and sat behind me, but suffice to say I missed large chunks of dialog because of the screaming and constant talking to the movie and her bellowing laugh. I've never in my life heard anyone scream and yell like that in normal life. I'm not kidding.

I was surprised, considering how Touchstone and Disney are marketing it as family friendly, how horrible some of the violence was (and I like movie violence). I can't handle animal death or the whole people walking near death through the desert stuff, either, so there were some chunks where I was burying my face in my seatmate's shoulder! Viggo, however, was stunning and that's the skinniest I've seen him in a long time!

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Date: 2004-02-14 09:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] varina8.livejournal.com
Wow, my experience was almost 360 out from yours. A bit of jabber at the beginning then people settled right down.

Viggo was indeed stunning. I thought the whole thing was about 20 minutes too long. What troubled me the most was the use of the Ghost Dance and Wounded Knee (and the publicity about him being a "Pony Express" rider he was a dispatch rider).

If they had billed it as fiction, I'd probably have let go and treated it with the enjoyment of a "Raiders" sequel. Instead, they insisted on the true story angle. I realize that it's based on the Hopkins own tales, but I still struggled at times. I read a Mortenson interview in Native Voice (http://www.nativevoicemedia.com/fullstory.cfm?ID=455), a Lakota paper. It's clear he's very sincere and concerned about the accuracy of the ghost dance segments. Still, I can't shake my suspicions about the original source material and that influenced my reactions.

Date: 2004-02-12 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/beingboring_/
Ok, feedbacking as I go, because I just burst into tears in the middle of my uni library after reading this:
These were things Spike did not know: How to set bones (he breaks them), how to close a wound (he makes them), how to keep a human heart beating (he takes them). The char of lightning she was reborn on has left her rubicund, but the irregular beat of her pulse told him that was a lie. She was newly alive, dying again.
.
So I should go home now and finish it. But it's wonderful so far.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
I kind of like this idea -- sort of a drive by feedbacking! Heck, I'll take any kind of fb I can get! ;-) Hope you liked the rest of it!

Date: 2004-02-12 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliaabra.livejournal.com
You are extraordinary. This is an amazing piece of writing. So elegant and wonderful and the voices, which are so modern and colloquial, are perfectly captured. Buffy's internal monologue is, well, perfect. Spike's anguish and adoration, gorgeous. I don't think it's repetitive nor unoriginal--I haven't seen anyone working around the idea of Mary's Assumption and I think it's beautiful place to start. And it's what I've been craving--a true, deep S/B story. I have to go read it again. Right now.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you, that is so sweet. I was kind of worried that I could cross over a line with the religious signficance, but so far I haven't had any offended responses, so I figure I'm good to go. ;-) I'm really, really glad you liked it. ::beams::

Date: 2004-02-12 10:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] elz.livejournal.com
You want to know something really embarrassing? I read the beginning of this post earlier and got so distracted by the mention of Viggo and horsies that I missed the whole "new fic" thing. Until I saw people reccing it on my friends list. So - oops. *g* Off to read it now - hope you enjoyed the movie!

Date: 2004-02-14 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
LOL!!! I tricked you!!

Date: 2004-02-13 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merkuria-lyn.livejournal.com
Oh, wow. I don't have the words to say how wonderful this was. You really are an amazing writer...

::wanders off in a daze to rec this on her LJ::

Date: 2004-02-14 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
::does happy dance of rec'd joy!:: Thank you, I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

Date: 2004-02-13 04:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jems_/
I can't even find the words that would adequately describe my reaction. Suffice it to say I'm friending you (saw a rec on my friendsfriends list) so I won't miss gorgeous work like this.

Date: 2004-02-14 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Hey, compliments don't get much higher than that. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and welcome and all that. It's lovely to meet someone new through fanfic.

Date: 2004-02-13 05:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This was just amazing. I read it at work but I really have to read it again when I get home.

I really liked the style, wording and mood of the story. And Buffy and Spike. I love them. I feel for both of them, you've captured so much of their beauty. Beautiful, broken, insecure, lost, raw. I can't wait to get home so I can read it again.

Nellie

Date: 2004-02-14 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thank you!! This was a toughie to write, and it's just so great to know that people enjoyed it -- makes it all worthwhile.

Date: 2004-02-13 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onetwomany.livejournal.com
Absolutely beautiful work, Gwyn. The style is different, but it works beautifully, and I just loved the effortless flow from Buffy's point of view, to Spike's story of Buffy and back. Just amazing. Thank you for this :)

Date: 2004-02-14 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Thank you, pumpkin. Sorry it took me so long to respond, I've been freakishly busy for an unemployed layabout. And now the news about Angel... made it hard to motivate myself. But I'm glad the experiment worked!

Date: 2004-02-13 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordshiva.livejournal.com
I can't get to the story and can't find the homepage with all your stories. Which is frustrating me this morning. I wanted a good read before work. Ah well.

Re:

Date: 2004-02-13 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweet-ali.livejournal.com
Try this link: http://www.drizzle.com/~gwyneth/stories/assumption.html

No one should be deprived of this story :)

Date: 2004-02-13 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyn-r.livejournal.com
Just a quick note because I have to run off -- but my ISP seems to be having boatloads of trouble this morning. i can't get mail and the link not working might be part of that. I think the link is working now. Wish mail was!

Date: 2004-02-15 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com
Oh, Gwyn. This is beautiful. I don't know what else to say. Lovely.

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