BSG and stuff

[gwyn]

I have pages and pages and pages I could write about BSG, the finale, and why I broke with the show as a fandom a long time ago, but honestly? I don't think anyone would want to read that, so I'll just sum up my general feelings with an immortal line from another show that mired itself in its own mythology and was lost by a showrunner with a bloated ego and a tiny brain:

Sure. Fine. Whatever. (Dana Scully)

And I also am incredibly upset by and feel like I have something to say about much of the fannish vitriol spewing on one specific thing about the finale, but again, I don't think anyone really cares about my opinion on it, but I will say it anyway and put it behind

I am so very tired of the abuse heaped on Adama for putting the ring on Laura's finger after he sees she has passed. I know that pretty much everyone on my flist despises Bill and it's hard to read that sometimes, because I do love him so much. But to use that as a cudgel to beat on Adama just... corpse bride and marrying his dead girlfriend and all the rotten comments are giving me the blues. The Adama-hate gives me the blues, but I can live with that. This part carries it so far it hurts. I can't help but think that everyone who's made these comments has never watched someone die, or held someone in their arms when they died, or had someone they loved next to them as they passed. Putting that ring on her finger wasn't a romantic gesture, it was a loving gesture of connection to the woman he adored, in the situation they were in. I put a couple of my sister's rings back on her fingers after she went because I wanted her to have those on her body. I'm just... really amazed at how meanspirited the interpretation is on this act. It made me cry, it was familiar to me, and I loved Bill all the more for making it. They could have married at any time after they finally got together; it wasn't about "marrying" that made him put that ring on her finger. It was much larger and much more important, and I hate the way people are cheapening it because they've never been with someone when they died.

And now I'm just too sad and tired and I think I'm going to watch something mindless and funny.

Comments

[mlyn.livejournal.com]

I haven't read any reviews because hey, not my fandom, but I would have never thought that. I think some people just look for things to bitch about, and seeing other meanspirited people bitch about the same thing makes them feel justified to be more vocal.

I feel you. I would have thought the same thing about his gesture. *hugs*

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

Thank you... I don't know why it matters so much to me, other than that I've invested so much emotion into the two characters, and it's depressing to see people I think of as smart and savvy turn it into something ugly just because they're all hatey right now.

[destina.livejournal.com]

I haven't read any negative reviews about the moment Adama put the ring on Laura's finger. Huh. That made me cry really hard.

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

I know! I just... you're lucky you don't have my flist, apparently!

[fishsanwitt]

I have read some *very* spirited comments about that moment. I thought it was very loving, not controlling. And I thought their relationship was wonderfully complex. Not everyone on your f-list dislikes Bill Adama:)

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

It's odd, isn't it? I think part of what's bothering me is how people I think of as fairly smart, clever people are looking at it in the weirdest way, just because they're all full of hate for Adama. I think it's made them really blind.

[dine.livejournal.com]

not my fandom, so I've been skipping most of the comments on the finale - but (having not seen it) I think I'd have interpreted the scene as you did. possibly a function of age/life experience?

I hope a bit of funny helped lift your mood

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I do really think it has a lot to do with life experience and maturity (or age, whichever). I think people are just so blinded by their own hate of Adama that they can't see what the gesture really was, you know?

[kirbyfest.livejournal.com]

Haven't watched BSG much in ages, but the negative interpretation that's apparently out there of that moment just floors me. Jeez.

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

I know. And you were smart to stop watching. I kept watching, and all I got was this lousy heartache.

[ann1962]

I saw the first episode or two and the last one.

Putting that ring on her finger wasn't a romantic gesture, it was a loving gesture of connection to the woman he adored,

It didn't seem romantic to me either, not that I know what went on within the series. It came across to me as an amazing gesture of friendship and connection. Huh. I teared up too, and I had no investment in the characters. It wasn't cliched or over the top. A quiet moment for him, of her.

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad to hear from people who appreciated it for what it was. It's weird, the few really positive reviews I've read, people haven't mentioned that moment at all. It only seems to be mentioned in the cranky reviews. One of the things about their relationship was that I don't think Laura would ever have wanted any big fuss about commitment or marriage or anything sentimental. She was too tough and independent for that. So this gesture, and its timing, was perfect for Bill as a character.

[elinora.livejournal.com]

I am so very tired of the abuse heaped on Adama for putting the ring on Laura's finger after he sees she has passed.

Wow. We must read entirely different forums because the comments I haven't seen any of that.

I thought it was the perfect gesture.

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

Be glad that you don't have my flist!! It's full of Adama-h8. I don't even go near forums or anything because hell, my flist is bad enough!

[blue-larkspur.livejournal.com]

I loved that moment, when he put the ring on her finger.

I hope you were able to find something mindless and funny to enjoy!

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I think it's the only thing I've come away with from the finale that will stick with me for a long time after the annoyances fade away.

[slavelabour.livejournal.com]

Hey, I'm pro-Adama! I love Bill even though a lot of my flist seem to dislike him verra much. Meh, I'm sure I like things they despise, too, it all balances out in the end. But the scene with he and Laura really hurt me. I had hoped that something would shift or change and they could get their happy ever after but not so and I cried. And then I cried a little more to think he was there on that overlook, alone, in his new home, thinking of her and talking to her. Augh, my heart hurts.

[gwyn-r.livejournal.com]

Yay for Adama fans! I have this feeling, because I think that Bill knows where others are, as well as Lee, that after a time, he's going to go be with his BFF and Ellen, because that's the only way he can really grow older. He is going to miss her too much, and I think the only way he can survive that is with Saul.