Feels like: Antarctica
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gwynFor once, the predicted snowpocalypse is in fact a snowy apocalypse--over 8 inches and counting. I couldn't sleep last night because I was so worried about a tree limb falling on something, anything: power lines, the garage, my house, another plant. As it is I might lose the main part of my lilac bush, which is about 70 years old, and I'm not sure how much more the black bamboo can handle. It's scary af because there's more expected, but no one is saying it's going away at any point, and temperatures are hovering around freezing every day. Multiple snowstorms are expected.
And hey, hi, I haven't been around much since I finished the 31 flavors recs. To be honest, I probably won't be as much as I used to: between the awful discussions about money that have made me feel like I'm some sort of sleazy scam artist for being in a financial crisis right now and having a ko-fi account; the backlash about people wanting control over their posts; my inability to understand this where-fandom's-going-next stuff; and most of all, feeling like I can't trust my own community of fans because they're scraping decades-old personal shit from journals and posting it and bullying anyone who takes issue with it being on fanlore (seriously fuck fanlore to hell, they're violating the very community they're pretending to be about documenting), I just...don't feel like fandom's a fun place right now. And really, it doesn't matter--I have never felt more like what is the point of working so hard on things, about loving fandom, when no one even sees me.
Existential crisis: it's what's for dinner.
On a work note, I just finished a really weirdly written book that I thought for sure was a new author; turns out she's published a few books. I was just O.o . None of the basic mechanical things that current publishing standards require, like section breaks or clear POV shifts, random time jump whiplash, no dialog tags. But I'm sure it wasn't intentionally ominiscient narrative. Seriously, there are so few dialog tags even I, a professional reader, couldn't easily follow.
It got me thinking about how strange it is that I mostly do romance now as a copyeditor (I miss my guidebooks!). Because while I love romances, I have not yet read a single one from my main publishers that I would eargerly choose to read, and most of them make me recoil. A lot of them are by seriously popular authors, but they're all so painfully heteronormative and Southern Christian influenced values (guys who are obsessed with marriages and babies, as much as their wives are, even though they're in a type of field where...no guys would care about that sort of thing, people who get pearl clutchey about swearing and "everyone knowing they'll be having sex on their weekend getaway") and I wouldn't mind it too much, if it were toned down.
Because inevitably, what every book starts trading in, are things that I did not know before I became such a heavy-duty romance copyeditor that I would come to hate: jealousy, love triangles, hypermasculinity. ETA: I forgot gender essentialism!! And now I know that I have to add jealousy to my list of DNWs if I do Yuletide again, because my god, I hate it so much. I've always hated jealousy, my ex used to get upset that I didn't get jealous, like he thought somehow that was a sign of love (spoiler: it never is), and I loathe it in fictional heroes and heroines. I read one book where the male character responded to the female's jealousy with thoughts about how it was the hottest thing he'd ever heard. Related to jealousy, everyone in these romances is possessive, reactionary about someone's sexual past (especially if they run into an ex), and men often resent women having friendships, can't wait till the time when their attention will be solely devoted to him. Insert barf emoji here.
Love triangles are also related--like, I get that few people in the western world think this way, in that I think you can love more than one person at the same time. I'm sure that's one reason why I responded SO strongly to Steve Rogers--even though Marvel deny it, and act as if this wasn't their intention, it's so clear from the way Steve behaves that he cares for, can love Peggy and Bucky at the same time, and I think that still extends to him in the future. He just loves who he loves. And I know the appeal of the HEA, that's what I love about romance. But I never read the kinds that might think outside that super narrow, possessive-inspired "you're mine and mine alone" box where maybe there are two people who can give someone the HEA.
The hypermasculinity speaks for itself, but it's one of the worst parts of modern romances that I work on--in this latest one, there was a constant repetition of how real men didn't cry, didn't wear tights (for their superhero costume party), hated pink, etc. etc. The Southern writers are absolutely the worst at this, with the Western writers coming up behind, close.
I was regularly editing a couple people who unfortunately had books coming out when I was dealing with the cancer, so now I think they've shuffled off to other CEs. I'm going to see if I can get back on their books to take some of this taste out of my mouth, because even if they do follow a lot of those tropes, at least the jealousy and pearl clutching is toned down. I don't think any of my big publishers do m/m or w/w type stories, either, but I might at least ask.
And hey, hi, I haven't been around much since I finished the 31 flavors recs. To be honest, I probably won't be as much as I used to: between the awful discussions about money that have made me feel like I'm some sort of sleazy scam artist for being in a financial crisis right now and having a ko-fi account; the backlash about people wanting control over their posts; my inability to understand this where-fandom's-going-next stuff; and most of all, feeling like I can't trust my own community of fans because they're scraping decades-old personal shit from journals and posting it and bullying anyone who takes issue with it being on fanlore (seriously fuck fanlore to hell, they're violating the very community they're pretending to be about documenting), I just...don't feel like fandom's a fun place right now. And really, it doesn't matter--I have never felt more like what is the point of working so hard on things, about loving fandom, when no one even sees me.
Existential crisis: it's what's for dinner.
On a work note, I just finished a really weirdly written book that I thought for sure was a new author; turns out she's published a few books. I was just O.o . None of the basic mechanical things that current publishing standards require, like section breaks or clear POV shifts, random time jump whiplash, no dialog tags. But I'm sure it wasn't intentionally ominiscient narrative. Seriously, there are so few dialog tags even I, a professional reader, couldn't easily follow.
It got me thinking about how strange it is that I mostly do romance now as a copyeditor (I miss my guidebooks!). Because while I love romances, I have not yet read a single one from my main publishers that I would eargerly choose to read, and most of them make me recoil. A lot of them are by seriously popular authors, but they're all so painfully heteronormative and Southern Christian influenced values (guys who are obsessed with marriages and babies, as much as their wives are, even though they're in a type of field where...no guys would care about that sort of thing, people who get pearl clutchey about swearing and "everyone knowing they'll be having sex on their weekend getaway") and I wouldn't mind it too much, if it were toned down.
Because inevitably, what every book starts trading in, are things that I did not know before I became such a heavy-duty romance copyeditor that I would come to hate: jealousy, love triangles, hypermasculinity. ETA: I forgot gender essentialism!! And now I know that I have to add jealousy to my list of DNWs if I do Yuletide again, because my god, I hate it so much. I've always hated jealousy, my ex used to get upset that I didn't get jealous, like he thought somehow that was a sign of love (spoiler: it never is), and I loathe it in fictional heroes and heroines. I read one book where the male character responded to the female's jealousy with thoughts about how it was the hottest thing he'd ever heard. Related to jealousy, everyone in these romances is possessive, reactionary about someone's sexual past (especially if they run into an ex), and men often resent women having friendships, can't wait till the time when their attention will be solely devoted to him. Insert barf emoji here.
Love triangles are also related--like, I get that few people in the western world think this way, in that I think you can love more than one person at the same time. I'm sure that's one reason why I responded SO strongly to Steve Rogers--even though Marvel deny it, and act as if this wasn't their intention, it's so clear from the way Steve behaves that he cares for, can love Peggy and Bucky at the same time, and I think that still extends to him in the future. He just loves who he loves. And I know the appeal of the HEA, that's what I love about romance. But I never read the kinds that might think outside that super narrow, possessive-inspired "you're mine and mine alone" box where maybe there are two people who can give someone the HEA.
The hypermasculinity speaks for itself, but it's one of the worst parts of modern romances that I work on--in this latest one, there was a constant repetition of how real men didn't cry, didn't wear tights (for their superhero costume party), hated pink, etc. etc. The Southern writers are absolutely the worst at this, with the Western writers coming up behind, close.
I was regularly editing a couple people who unfortunately had books coming out when I was dealing with the cancer, so now I think they've shuffled off to other CEs. I'm going to see if I can get back on their books to take some of this taste out of my mouth, because even if they do follow a lot of those tropes, at least the jealousy and pearl clutching is toned down. I don't think any of my big publishers do m/m or w/w type stories, either, but I might at least ask.
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Date: 2019-02-09 09:12 pm (UTC)Ugggghhhh, jealousy.
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Date: 2019-02-09 09:15 pm (UTC)https://www.amazon.com/dp/031643535X/?coliid=I1O2DV13B3PP1D&colid=1QUWP8C62VWVZ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
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Date: 2019-02-09 10:55 pm (UTC)Thanks for linking to this!
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Date: 2019-02-18 06:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-09 09:24 pm (UTC)I really value you being here, however you want that to look. I'm glad we're friends.
The romance stuff sounds relentless, jeeze. I hope your company can put you on some better books.
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Date: 2019-02-18 06:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-09 10:00 pm (UTC)I totally understand all that. I'd really miss you if you quit working on fannish stuff though! Your fics and meta and vids are all so good. But if you're not getting joy out of it, and are feeling invisible and unappreciated, that just sucks.
IDEFK about all the "Patreons are just like MLM scams" and "Fanlore is just following ancient meta newsletters so nobody can complain" and hubzilla and P2P and God knows what. I'm happy that people and fandom are coming back to DW. I'm really not happy about a lot of the wank being handed down from certain quarters.
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Date: 2019-02-18 07:15 pm (UTC)ETA: Which is to say yes, I'm not happy with all this being handed down from certain quarters either.
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Date: 2019-02-09 10:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-09 10:16 pm (UTC)In other news, I too am not remotely emotionally or sexually jealous regarding my SO, and also believe it’s possible to love more than one person at a time. A) High five, sister across the sea! B) I wonder if those two things go hand in hand. Like if you’re not jealous it’s easier to see love as a non-zero sum game and to recognise that we meet a looooooot of people and expecting only one to be The One is a bit bonkers. My working principle: love is not finite, but time and effort are, and it’s the second part where it all falls down. (And don’t get me started on the whole concept of Finders Keepers. Yes, yes, cultural monogamy, whatever. 🙄 )
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Date: 2019-02-18 07:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 01:32 am (UTC)Haha, yuuuuuup ... I got caught out trying to drive home with my kiddo, we ended up having to overnight in a hotel because I literally could not get to the 5 southbound, and I needed to be towed out of a small drainage ditch. That's what I get for making dumb assumptions about the accuracy of snowpocalypse forecasts!
real men didn't cry, didn't wear tights (for their superhero costume party), hated pink, etc. etc.
Every time I wonder why I don't try to read my favorite fanfic tropes in original published fiction, I come across stuff like this and I'm like oh yeah, that's why. I love romance as a genre, just not in all the super cisheteronormative ways it tends to show up. Back to fandom it is!
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Date: 2019-02-18 07:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 01:41 am (UTC)See, this is why I rarely pick up new romance authors, even if it eventually feels like I'm reading variations on the same book. Some of the things I've come across have been unsettling. I mean, there's a good old fashioned "I would never stand for this in real life, but it's fun to read" kind of thing, but some of these modern romances that are supposedly realistic remind me of the worst of the Old Skool historicals.
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Date: 2019-02-18 07:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-18 09:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 07:13 am (UTC)So much of what you describe sounds like artificial conflict, it's a wonder it is so popular, but apparently it still has a market. And at least it helps pay the bills? But it would be nicer if your work were more enjoyable.
Sorry you got caught in the latest fandom drama. People in groups can be really exhausting.
Multilevel marketing does seem largely quite predatory, but Patreon and tip jars aren't the same thing at all. I know people not in fandom who are incensed about using any web method of supporting oneself as an artist, but I really don't understand why people shouldn't be free to look for new successful business models if they are producing original content (though I can see how it quickly becomes tricky around commercial properties in all directions).
<3
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Date: 2019-02-18 07:29 pm (UTC)And thank you so much for your help--you are so incredibly kind to me. ♥ ♥
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Date: 2019-02-18 07:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 08:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 02:19 pm (UTC)About fan migration -- I have a lot of hope that the federated/Hubzilla thing will work out well. Some really dedicated and excited folks are working on making it an easy transition and a friendly environment. I'm not being much use myself, just helping with the occasional experiment, but I'm enjoying the process and there is a fair amount of fannish content, at least in some fandoms.
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Date: 2019-02-10 11:03 pm (UTC)(Or maybe they are, who knows.)